Is Vegetarianism logically inconsistent?

[GhostlyPea]

In modern times a vegetarian diet is perfectly adequate for survival and healthier than eating meat.

Source to unquestionable medical proof that it is healthier please and make sure its from a relaible source.

Also most veggies/vegans have to take suplements. If you're taking suplements then your quite obviously missing out on something and if that something is found in meat where we have gotten it from for the last several thousand years then that puts a lid on that idea. Taking suplements means your making up for something your lacking...

- Pea0n

 

[yhack]

Also most veggies/vegans have to take suplements. If you're taking suplements then your quite obviously missing out on something and if that something is found in meat where we have gotten it from for the last several thousand years then that puts a lid on that idea. Taking suplements means your making up for soemthing your lacking...

- Pea0n

I've been vegetarian from birth and have never taken any supplements, I fail to see why any vegetarian would need to unless they're doing it wrong.

 

[Tefal]

I have to say that I wouldn't be adverse to the idea

hang on a second, that sounds like you're more willing than just forced by circumstance as it were.

If a restaurant found a person who wanted to be eaten (and the law was changed and it was all legal ) would you go and have taste of a variety of human meat dishes?

 

[Ahleckz]

hang on a second, that sounds like you're more willing than just forced by circumstance as it were.

If a restaurant found a person who wanted to be eaten (and the law was changed and it was all legal ) would you go and have taste of a variety of human meat dishes?

I would.

 

[Tefal]

I like drinking alcohol.

But i bet you won't/don't like the taste of pure ethanol.

 

[eatcustard]

hang on a second, that sounds like you're more willing than just forced by circumstance as it were.

If a restaurant found a person who wanted to be eaten (and the law was changed and it was all legal ) would you go and have taste of a variety of human meat dishes?

How much will it cost?

 

[Things change I've changed]

Source to unquestionable medical proof that it is healthier please and make sure its from a reliable source.

Also most veggies/vegans have to take supplements. If you're taking supplements then your quite obviously missing out on something and if that something is found in meat where we have gotten it from for the last several thousand years then that puts a lid on that idea. Taking supplements means your making up for something your lacking...

- Pea0n

No they don't, and neither do I take supplements and I know most of the millions of Hindu vegetarians in India and other such places don't either.

 

[GhostlyPea]

I've been vegetarian from birth and have never taken any supplements, I fail to see why any vegetarian would need to unless they're doing it wrong.

I said most, not all. Sensible ones like youerself (by the sounds of it) will have a varied enough diet that you'll get the nutrition you need. Never the less the idea of "doing it wrong" for me entails that you must have to do "something right" as an oposite. Even if you're not taking supplements there are certain foods you'll need to eat naturally to give the required vitamins/minerals/proteins etc. which could still be looked at suplementing even if it isnt from a bottle as it would be intentionally varying a diet.

I still stand by my request for proof on that redoculous claim that vegitarianism is medically proven to be healthier than the omniverious diet we are designed to eat

- Pea0n

 

[GhostlyPea]

No they don't, and neither do I take supplements and I know most of the millions of Hindu vegetarians in India and other such places don't either.

See my next post. A suplement doesnt have to be from a bottle. Your perfectly healthy diet (and I'm not saying it isnt in this case) is still designed to give the required nutrients by suplementing one food for another.

It doesnt have to come from a bottle to be a suplement

- Pea0n

 

[Freefaller]

hang on a second, that sounds like you're more willing than just forced by circumstance as it were.

If a restaurant found a person who wanted to be eaten (and the law was changed and it was all legal ) would you go and have taste of a variety of human meat dishes?

Honestly? I'd try it sure, I doubt I'd order a rump steak, or a joint of person, but I'd certainly be interested in trying. Meat is meat after all.

If I were a neanderthal 10s of thousands of years ago I'd eat any of you

 

[InvaderGIR]

See my next post. A suplement doesnt have to be from a bottle. Your perfectly healthy diet (and I'm not saying it isnt in this case) is still designed to give the required nutrients by suplementing one food for another.

It doesnt have to come from a bottle to be a suplement

- Pea0n

But the same could be said for eating meat...you're supplementing certain vegetables for meat to ensure you get the correct vitamins etc.

If I were a neanderthal

Well...I didn't want to say, but...

 

[Things change I've changed]

See my next post. A supplement doesn't have to be from a bottle. Your perfectly healthy diet (and I'm not saying it isn't in this case) is still designed to give the required nutrients by supplementing one food for another.

It doesn't have to come from a bottle to be a supplement.

- Pea0n

That's called having a healthy diet, the same goes for if your eating meat, you have to make sure your eating a wide range of balanced healthy foods, that's normal, that isn't classed as 'supplements', are you saying if you eat meat you don't need to eat anything else?, the 5'a'day rule applies to meat eaters also.

 

[Metatron]

See my next post. A suplement doesnt have to be from a bottle. Your perfectly healthy diet (and I'm not saying it isnt in this case) is still designed to give the required nutrients by suplementing one food for another.

It doesnt have to come from a bottle to be a suplement

- Pea0n

Straws, you are clutching at them.

 

[^TANK^]

Not one person has really addressed my question.

I am not interested here in the pros and cons of meat eating (though I highly encourage viewing the film 'Earthlings' which is available on their website online, and also a trailer), my question is instead to vegetarians who chose not to eat meat because they believe you should not kill animals, and to ask, why do you eat eggs and diary (since both involve killing).

I attempted to become a vegetarian not so long ago but unfortunately gave in to the cravings . Just like yourself I questioned the merits behind being a vegetarian because as you say they still eat dairy products and eggs and fish, this to me just defeats the object of being a vegetarian and contradics itself really doesnt it? My attitude now is you are either a vegan like yourself 'Lupine Lacuna you have my upmost respect' or you are an omnivore! Therefore I think all you vegiterians are complete bull ****ers.

 

[Participant]

I like meat enough that I am willing to overlook any misgivings I may have about the treatment of animals farmed for human consumption.

If this makes me a hypocrite, then at least I'm a well fed hypocrite!

 

[Freefaller]

I said most, not all. Sensible ones like youerself (by the sounds of it) will have a varied enough diet that you'll get the nutrition you need. Never the less the idea of "doing it wrong" for me entails that you must have to do "something right" as an oposite. Even if you're not taking supplements there are certain foods you'll need to eat naturally to give the required vitamins/minerals/proteins etc. which could still be looked at suplementing even if it isnt from a bottle as it would be intentionally varying a diet.

I still stand by my request for proof on that redoculous claim that vegitarianism is medically proven to be healthier than the omniverious diet we are designed to eat

- Pea0n

There is no medical proof. It's piffle. All the comparisons were comparing oranges to apples - i.e. an office working homnivore vs a fitness enthusiast vegetarian, taking supplements (like whey, vitamins and other supplementation).

Eating a varied lifestyle WITH meat, and exercise, I would argue is potentially healthier than a purely vegetarian lifestyle. The key is variety in diet and healthy living (i.e. doing some exercise too).

Each to their own though - I can accept people doing it out of choice, what I don't accept is people telling me that humans SHOULDN'T eat meat or that it's not as healthy.

 

[^TANK^]

I have to say that I wouldn't be adverse to the idea

Me neither, if it was cut up and placed on a plate shaped like a steak I would have a little nibble lol.

 

[Freefaller]

Well...I didn't want to say, but...

*sharpens canines*

 

[The IPB]

If I were able to and could get all the required nutrients from it, I would eat just meat. I really don't enjoy many vegetables at all.

Meaaattt mmmmmm

 

[GhostlyPea]

But the same could be said for eating meat...you're supplementing certain vegetables for meat to ensure you get the correct vitamins etc.

Well...I didn't want to say, but...

Our bodies are deigned to eat meat - that isnt a suplement its eating a natural source we are designed to eat

That's called having a healthy diet, the same goes for if your eating meat, you have to make sure your eating a wide range of balanced healthy foods, that's normal, that isn't classed as 'supplements', are you saying if you eat meat you don't need to eat anything else?, the 5'a'day rule applies to meat eaters also.

OFC and I agree, I probably came across wrong in that. Take an example --> a person turns vegetarian. They might have to start eating something (Like nuts maybe as an example) that they wouldnt have had to eat before because their natural intake was taken from something they eat by default.

Straws, you are clutching at them.

Hardly.

Anyway I'm not used to this debate stuff, I usually don't bother

Edit - For the record I'm all for a balanced diet. I enjoy veggies too but they alwasy complain when I put them in the stew pot...damn hippies