Caporegime
Aye good stuff - why is Cameron sounding apologetic though? He doesn't need to invoke self-defence imo, British Armed Forces doing what they should be doing all the time - killing bad guys.
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Aye good stuff - why is Cameron sounding apologetic though? He doesn't need to invoke self-defence imo, British Armed Forces doing what they should be doing all the time - killing bad guys.
Best you carry on as you were I think.
Soldato
Haha, probably. Oblivious and worried.
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Probably doesn't want their friends and family in the UK to start exploding.
Soldato
its because he lost the vote to carry out any action inside Syria
although that was against Assad before the whole Isis thing, so i doubt people will oppose it as much now
Caporegime
Sickening scenes on the news from Cardiff, where "friends" of the dead jihadi were calling for an investigation and for "questions to be answered". Uh-uh - you don't get to ask questions when your mate turns out to be a wrong'un, and had to be put down.
Man of Honour
The BBC news just showed this person twice asking for an investigation. Just unbelievable when he knows extactly why these IS scum where killed. I can't see why they bothered giving him air time.
British government executing British citizens without trial...
Discounting the ISIS side of things we weren't even doing that when the IRA were bombing the mainland (AFAIK). I'm surprised that's even legal.
Edit: just seeing the above posts, I think it's perfectly legitimate to be asking for more information when the British government target British citizens. It would be a totally different matter if they were "collateral" damage from an attack on an ISIS target IMO.
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What was it then? They were targeted and blown up, no different to putting a bomb under a police officers car, or shooting someone who is not currently a threat.
They weren't "in the vicinity" of a target, the missiles were meant for them. Much like Bin Laden was executed and many of the leading ISIS/ Al queda members were. I'm not against execution per SE, but let's call it what it was.
Soldato
Unfortunate but necessary.
Caporegime
They are active targets in a war zone
Caporegime
Hmm, I think an ITV News reporter just let the cat out of the bag - one of the plots that the security services was the 4th July celebrations, presumably at the US embassy.
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Because Labour are demanding to know why he/they were "targeted", infringing their human rights to er, join a terrorist organisation presumably.
Caporegime
There were similair killings of ira members here and abroad, loughgall and Gibraltar being two such incidents. In the loughgall incident an ira squad were in the middle of carrying out a bomb attack on a police station when they were ambushed by an sas team.
But we aren't fighting in Syria, which is one of the reasons Cameron was acting apologetic.
Anyway, we are going off on a tangent.
Caporegime
I care - we need victories.
In both situations they were in the act (or in the case of gibraltar - believed to be in the act) of carrying out an attack. There is no evidence to suggest those two were (at least that we have seen).
I'm not necessarily suggesting that they shouldn't have been targeted here but the whole "OORAH" attitude seen by many in this thread is bypassing legitimate questions that should be asked in situations like this.
Legitimately struck under the right to self defence. Seeing as this was completely lawful there isn't actually any valid argument against the action.