ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Hey, i was hell busy in life and my JOB :(
Ok so, last month I was in India, for business. We Import Fabric from Ahmedabad and Kolkatta. So i met a person. He was Mullah type of person. We had a discussion on Islamic extremism and what is the future of ISIS.
He was so confident on the rightness of ISIS that i was unable to convince him and logically persuade him.
His logic was, You (UK) killed more humans than any other nation in the world. The Punishment of one person(OBL was given to the whole country. Millions of women and children were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Osama was not found in Afghanistan and there were no weapon of mass destruction in Iraq.
I was unable to prove him wrong and went to hotel after this discussion.
Whats your verdict..?
 
Hey, i was hell busy in life and my JOB :(
Ok so, last month I was in India, for business. We Import Fabric from Ahmedabad and Kolkatta. So i met a person. He was Mullah type of person. We had a discussion on Islamic extremism and what is the future of ISIS.
He was so confident on the rightness of ISIS that i was unable to convince him and logically persuade him.
His logic was, You (UK) killed more humans than any other nation in the world. The Punishment of one person(OBL was given to the whole country. Millions of women and children were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Osama was not found in Afghanistan and there were no weapon of mass destruction in Iraq.
I was unable to prove him wrong and went to hotel after this discussion.
Whats your verdict..?

My verdict - the whole ****** world needs to grow up and move forwards regardless of which side of the fence they are on.
 
Hey, i was hell busy in life and my JOB :(
Ok so, last month I was in India, for business. We Import Fabric from Ahmedabad and Kolkatta. So i met a person. He was Mullah type of person. We had a discussion on Islamic extremism and what is the future of ISIS.
He was so confident on the rightness of ISIS that i was unable to convince him and logically persuade him.
His logic was, You (UK) killed more humans than any other nation in the world. The Punishment of one person(OBL was given to the whole country. Millions of women and children were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Osama was not found in Afghanistan and there were no weapon of mass destruction in Iraq.
I was unable to prove him wrong and went to hotel after this discussion.
Whats your verdict..?
On you? Same as always, a bit suspect.
 
Why didn't you point out to the deluded old fool that Saddam actually did have WMDs, as evidenced by his use of them in Halabja to murder ~5000 Kurds just two years prior to the Gulf War.

The Iraq Survey Group that had 1400 members that combed the country found no weapon program or stockpiles and in-fact found out that they destroyed their stockpiles in 1991 when Sanctions imposed.

Invading Iraq and destroying a stable country has resulted in millions of deaths with holocaust levels of suffering.

Iraq, Syria, Yemen and god knows who else are ****** for multiple generations due to our actions.

You know what country does have WMD? North Korea, but we too chicken to invade them.
 
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Hey, i was hell busy in life and my JOB :(
Ok so, last month I was in India, for business. We Import Fabric from Ahmedabad and Kolkatta. So i met a person. He was Mullah type of person. We had a discussion on Islamic extremism and what is the future of ISIS.
He was so confident on the rightness of ISIS that i was unable to convince him and logically persuade him.
His logic was, You (UK) killed more humans than any other nation in the world. The Punishment of one person(OBL was given to the whole country. Millions of women and children were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Osama was not found in Afghanistan and there were no weapon of mass destruction in Iraq.
I was unable to prove him wrong and went to hotel after this discussion.
Whats your verdict..?

Holy crap if you aren't making up this rubbish you are spamming cheap VPN adverts. Hint, no one here believes anything you say.
 
The Iraq Survey Group that had 1400 members that combed the country found no weapon program or stockpiles and in-fact found out that they destroyed their stockpiles in 1991 when Sanctions imposed.

Invading Iraq and destroying a stable country has resulted in millions of deaths with holocaust levels of suffering.

Iraq, Syria, Yemen and god knows who else are ****** for multiple generations due to our actions.

You know what country does have WMD? North Korea, but we too chicken to invade them.

Iraq was a lose, lose situation really - there was ongoing suffering and repression regardless I'd be more critical of the state it was left in than taking action there WMDs or not.

NK makes me laugh as the West doesn't seem to know how to handle a situation where you can't threaten them effectively, can't talk or negotiate out of the situation and can't just walk all over them militarily (short of massive utilisation of WMDs and indiscriminate killing of civilians) and no stomach for the kind of war it will take and almost certainly is going to end up being forced in the long run which will probably be messier than if they just got on with what had to be done earlier.
 
NK is easy.

Get America to sign a peace treaty, the majority of the world will see it as a posative and not a sign of weakness.

Downside is Americans will see it as weakness. So will never happen.
 
NK is easy.

Get America to sign a peace treaty, the majority of the world will see it as a posative and not a sign of weakness.

Downside is Americans will see it as weakness. So will never happen.

Not following your thinking - NK aren't interested in peace with the US and wouldn't believe it anyhow if the US did come to the table. NK are the side that hasn't ratified and abided by the original armistice not the US (for the most part) which means there has only been a cease of hostilities not peace.
 
The Iraq Survey Group that had 1400 members that combed the country found no weapon program or stockpiles and in-fact found out that they destroyed their stockpiles in 1991 when Sanctions imposed.

Invading Iraq and destroying a stable country has resulted in millions of deaths with holocaust levels of suffering.

Iraq, Syria, Yemen and god knows who else are ****** for multiple generations due to our actions.

You know what country does have WMD? North Korea, but we too chicken to invade them.
That is exactly what he was saying. More importantly he was impressively calm when presenting his point.
 
The Iraq Survey Group that had 1400 members that combed the country found no weapon program or stockpiles and in-fact found out that they destroyed their stockpiles in 1991 when Sanctions imposed.

Invading Iraq and destroying a stable country has resulted in millions of deaths with holocaust levels of suffering.

Iraq, Syria, Yemen and god knows who else are ****** for multiple generations due to our actions.

You know what country does have WMD? North Korea, but we too chicken to invade them.
Holy crap, probably the first time I’ve ever agreed with you on something :eek: :p

Some excellent points there IW.
 
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