ISP with dynamic IP?

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Do they exist anymore? I'm getting quite tired of my current static IP being blocked on some game servers when I've done no wrong. Is anyone here with an ISP that still offers a dynamic IP? :)
 
Most ISPs give you a "sticky" IP, meaning that it will probably stay the same for weeks if not months. I'm with Be and though i didnt request a static IP, it hardly ever changes.
 
Had the same IP for over a year with ADSL24. I was previously with BT Yahoo Broadband, and my IP changed everytime i switched the router on and off, which was all the time because it was a USB modem and only worked when the PC was turned on.
 
Linoge said:
Do they exist anymore? I'm getting quite tired of my current static IP being blocked on some game servers when I've done no wrong. Is anyone here with an ISP that still offers a dynamic IP? :)
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Yes absolutely they do. I was with PIPEX who have been taken over by Tiscali (:rolleyes:) so after finding out that my exchange has been unbundled and has been taken over by Carphone warehouse (TalkTalk), I have moved to them. What used to cost me over £40 per month + more for line rental and other incidentals and Broadband it now costs me £20.43 a month. This includes everthing including international calls and free all the time calls to 01 and 02.

TalkTalk have got a bad name in the press, but take no notice, they are no different to any other provider. If you are lucky enough to be on an exchange that has been unbundled and they are the provider, then nothing has changed, because BT have the contract with them to fix any problems. Also note, if you are on a TalkTalk unbundled exchange, you are paying more to go with another ISP because they get charged by talktalk for Broadband to supply it to you whereas you can have it for free with them.

Now back to the dynamic IPs. Mine changes on average 3 times a day and that happens without logging off the machine. This did cause me a problem at first, as I am an admin on a game server in the data centre in New York Manhatten and times I could not get into the game as an admin with some kind of software to take care of my forever changing IP. The solutions to any problems such as this is to use a FREE service from dydns see here

http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/

Then all you do is use a little update tool called DynDNS updater, that sits in your system tray and the problem is solved. I have been doing this for 4 years now and it is a superb system allowing you to always use a hostname instead of messing around with IPs. It is really good if you ever have your own Teamspeak server and wish people to logon without knowing your forever changing IP.

Before anyone calls into question Carphone Warehouse as they did get bad press when they first started , I suggest you see who they really are on this site.

http://www.opaltelecom.co.uk/

http://www.opaltelecom.co.uk/whyuseopal/theopalstory/

Note 1. I do have a draytek 2600+ router, so the IP changes are nothing to do with switching the PC on and off.

Note 2. When checking tracert, I found many times (not all) that I was still routed over the same backbone that was originally laid for PIPEX. So the only thing that has changed really, is that I am managed by a different provider at a far lower cost. Can't be a bad deal eh?


If you have any other questions on this, I am only too willing to help.
 
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Mostly good info, but this isn't always true:

"Also note, if you are on a TalkTalk unbundled exchange, you are paying more to go with another ISP because they get charged by talktalk for Broadband to supply it to you whereas you can have it for free with them."

It really depends on whether or not you even need the call package and/or if you'd prefer to go with an ISP that has a lower contract and a better reputation (whether or not they've improved, it's hard to shake off an awful rep).
 
Aekeron said:
Mostly good info, but this isn't always true:

"Also note, if you are on a TalkTalk unbundled exchange, you are paying more to go with another ISP because they get charged by talktalk for Broadband to supply it to you whereas you can have it for free with them."

It really depends on whether or not you even need the call package and/or if you'd prefer to go with an ISP that has a lower contract and a better reputation (whether or not they've improved, it's hard to shake off an awful rep).
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Always down to opinion of course. The point was to answer the guy who wanted a dynamic IP, not to compare broadband suppliers.

Below is another opinion and there are more depending on what you want for your money, and what you use Broadband for ;)

http://www.top10-broadband.co.uk/types/cheap_broadband/


"Also note, if you are on a TalkTalk unbundled exchange, you are paying more to go with another ISP because they get charged by talktalk for Broadband to supply it to you whereas you can have it for free with them."

This is completely true for costing Broadband on a TalkTalk unbundled exchange as I said previously.
 
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What you are saying with the last bit is completely untrue - the other ISPs don't charged by talktalk to provide you with broadband. Perhaps you don't mean that, in which case your wording needs sorting as in its present form it doesn't make much sense.

The talktalk package is quite a good deal if you don't have very high requirements for your internet service but you do use the landline for calls a lot. If (like some people here), your requirements are better internet and less based on the ability to make cheap calls, you'd be better with an alternative ISP (e.g. basic BT phoneline + Bethere Value @ £14/month). This would indeed be more than you'd be paying for the talktalk package but you'd have more options and more control over your internet (and reputedly, which is based on people's posted experiences rather than just my own, better service).

These are two different situations and sets of requirements. I'd probably not steer someone away from talktalk if they just wanted to do light browsing and email, but any more advanced internet user could be better served elsewhere.

edit: That link you posted is awful advice for any series inet user. I'd perhaps use that for someone's grandparents internet choice but beyond that...
 
Aekeron said:
What you are saying with the last bit is completely untrue - the other ISPs don't charged by talktalk to provide you with broadband. Perhaps you don't mean that, in which case your wording needs sorting as in its present form it doesn't make much sense.
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I am pleased to say it is true. If talktalk operate the exchange then they do. In fact I found out for my exchange that for people such as Sky who have to have the allocation from talktalk they not only charge for it, but they also restrict the amount of users that can have the highest bandwidth. I should now, as I asked the technical people at BT, Pipex(now owned by Tiscali) and Sky, and Sky said we cannot compete as the exchange is not ours and we cannot have any more users on the highest rate. The most they said they could give me was 2 meg line and I wanted the maximum available (6) for my distance from the exchange.

Aekeron said:
The talktalk package is quite a good deal if you don't have very high requirements for your internet service but you do use the landline for calls a lot. If (like some people here), your requirements are better internet and less based on the ability to make cheap calls, you'd be better with an alternative ISP (e.g. basic BT phoneline + Bethere Value @ £14/month). This would indeed be more than you'd be paying for the talktalk package but you'd have more options and more control over your internet (and reputedly, which is based on people's posted experiences rather than just my own, better service).
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I would suggest (I put this diplomatically) that if talktalk operate the exchange, then it does not matter one little bit who gives or states that they can give you the gold plated service, then they cannot supply a better service..end of story..! Why? Because the phone line from your house to the exchange is already the same and the equipment in the exchange is theirs and serviced under contract by BT. After that the rest of the routing across backbone's is a matter of contract with underground/cable provider for that area. As I found out when along with 2 other guys we lobbied all the local people to ensure we got Broadband out in the villages as soon as we had the requisite signatures to get it enabled.

By the way, all calls for my package to 01 and 02 numbers are free all day everyday. Also there are free international calls to 38 different countries 24/7, and not only that there is no BT line rental and I dont pay Broadband charges at all. I get the maximum available speed available for my exchange that BT used to give before it was Local Loop Unbundled.

Aekeron said:
These are two different situations and sets of requirements. I'd probably not steer someone away from talktalk if they just wanted to do light browsing and email, but any more advanced internet user could be better served elsewhere.
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Let me make myself clear. I am a full internet user by every sense of the word, I spend more than 12 hours a day on it. I am not going to say anymore than that. I am a very heavy user. I am telling people that if talktalk have unbundled their exchange, then it does not make any sense whatsoever to be with another provider on that exchange.

Aekeron said:
edit: That link you posted is awful advice for any series inet user. I'd perhaps use that for someone's grandparents internet choice but beyond that...
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:rolleyes:

By the way..from talktalk..

"We have extended our network footprint to over 1,600 fully-unbundled exchanges, giving us a significant cost advantage over our competitors across most of the country," said Charles Dunstone, chief executive officer of Carphone Warehouse."

To be honest your rebuff of my advice on this thread is without foundation, as the industry has already recognised the value of talktalk.. see here..

http://www.top10-broadband.co.uk/news/2008/06/03/talktalks-new-broadband-range-unveiled/
 
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TalkTalk don't own a single exchange. They install kit in BT's exchange, and if any other ISP wants to offer service from that exchange, they don't have any interaction with TalkTalk whatsoever.

The fact it's fully unbundled just means you don't have to use BT Wholesale ADSL, and TalkTalk can handle your voice service (using the same equipment as the DSLAM, in most cases) from the exchange too (rather than using Wholesale Line Rental or Carrier PreSelection).
 
tolien said:
TalkTalk don't own a single exchange. They install kit in BT's exchange, and if any other ISP wants to offer service from that exchange, they don't have any interaction with TalkTalk whatsoever.

The fact it's fully unbundled just means you don't have to use BT Wholesale ADSL, and TalkTalk can handle your voice service (using the same equipment as the DSLAM, in most cases) from the exchange too (rather than using Wholesale Line Rental or Carrier PreSelection).
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I could not have put it better myself, all exchanges are owned and maintained by BT and any provider has to go through BT Wholesale whether they have an unbundled service or not.
 
They don't go through Wholesale, but rather Openreach. Wholesale are considered just another LLUer these days.
 
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