ISPs to be ordered to boot illegal downloaders

You do realise how much resources it would take to do data capture/real-time packet sniffing on every peer? Right now I would say hardly any ISP's actually have the equipment for it.

I'm fully aware :)

Wholesale monitoring would be hard and that's why the ISP are kicking up a stink, for an ISP you are better off not knowing what your users are doing, if you don't monitor and you don't know then you can't be liable.

Ignorance is bliss!

If the Government make it a requirement they will have to implememt it, the ISP would probably make a very good case that it is technically impossible, so maybe they would "target" only certain users I would start with the ones with very large download totals ;)
 
You do realise how much resources it would take to do data capture/real-time packet sniffing on every peer? Right now I would say hardly any ISP's actually have the equipment for it.

As mentioned above if you tunnel your p2p over SSL then they won't have a clue whats in the payload. The port numbers thing is crap as well... cos you could equally as well use something like DC++ over standard ports such as http/ftp/pop3.

This was said by a friend of mine (who is one of the senior guys at a very large ISP) on another forum where this topic was under discussion. It doesn't appear to be as unfeasable as you think.

The feasibility of the technology to do it is there.

There are devices out there that can monitor a "fingerprint" of all media heading through them for copyright enforcement purposes (e.g. www.audiblemagic.com) and compare it with a record/film company database, there are widely deployed (e.g. BT) devices out there that can monitor a large set of fingerprints at the 2Gbps level for illegal content and anti-virus (e.g. www.streamshield.com), and there are devices that can monitor and block/rate-limit individual applications, including encrypted P2P clients at the 10Gbps level (e.g. www.ellacoya.com). That said, none of it is cheap, and people find ways round it.

These vendors (particularly AudibleMagic) and the rights holders are all pushing $$$ at lobbying organisations, here, in the US and in Brussels.

They have had some success (e.g. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/23/scarlet_file_sharing_appeal/), and it would surprise me not at all if we move from voluntary self-regulation to compulsory regulation inside a 5-year timeframe, and the three classes of boxes mentioned above start to see greater integration, higher speeds and more brand recogniition.

ISPs (all of them above a certain threshold) have already spent considerable money to comply with the regulations on lawful intercept, and big telecoms providers in a lot of geographies have spent astronomical sums of money on intercept and monitoring for voice and circuit data services (most in ways you don't hear about, but occasionally something like http://www.dotindia.com/isp/landing_station.doc pops up).
 
This was said by a friend of mine (who is one of the senior guys at a very large ISP) on another forum where this topic was under discussion. It doesn't appear to be as unfeasable as you think.

There all based on some kinda signature based detection method. Which is pretty flawed because you need to keep your signatures/fingerprints up to date all the time. Its a cat and mouse game really.. I don't mean its not feasible to do it, I know its possible. Just takes a hell of a lot of resources/money.
 
oh well i must download as much stuff as possible just now before they start banning people.
If the TV shows aired in the USA and in the UK at the same time i wouldnt need to download the shows, also i refuse to pay crazy prices for music/video. i wouldnt mind buying the real thing if it was cheaper, i do buy a lot of music from HMV and Amazon but only if i like the band/film, i wouldnt buy a cd which costs too much if i wasnt sure i would like it. If i download an album/film and its really good i will go and buy the real cd/dvd.
 
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For all those who are dismissing the privacy issues concerning the internet, when you suddenly find out that you have been named and shamed as being interested in content X etc you will find out that by that time it is too late.

You really don't think it will happen? Your browsing habits become available for everyone to see and companies taking advantage of that to sell you stuff? Remember Demolition Man/Minority Report? As people walk along, you are identified and the adverts are for things that would "interest" you, so if you surf for dodgy stuff, that is reflected in the adverts around you.

People are waaaaaay to free with their privacy... these are the sorts of people who also only follow the "norm" and are afraid of "change". Very scary.
 
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