It didnt take them long - Fans fighting.

if half of what was said by stand and that channel 4 guy is true the french police and security services have either given up on doing anything or just dont have a handle on any of this.

I am beginning to think that the police have decided **** you lot, you can fight an kill each other, we have got bigger things to worry about, how else can they explain the total lack of policing of all the fans involved in this.

Looks to me like they are not interested unless it involves terrorism.
 
I wouldn't worry - they'll be lucky to get the x in the box - probably just end up unintentionally spoiling their ballot paper instead.

And if you look at it that way and think they cannot put an x in a box or will spoil the ballot paper then your just as big an idiot for taking the simpletons view of "it wont matter, they are just knuckle dragging neanderthals".

You spout the same crap as always like some others on here, ****ging off others intelligence or lack of as a reason as to why they are to dumb to know how to vote, yes, the real world works like that.
 
How have they got into the ground with a flare gun? It may not fire bullets but it is still a gun, how has that got through security considering the heightened security level and so called three security check points to get into the ground.
 
Aren't the French police thoroughly useless though? Weren't they running across the entire country in Pugs trying to catch those Hebdo shooters?

Correct, always been the same, their security have very good resources, weapons\arms\armour etc etc and are totally useless at defending anything that attacks them, their people or the innocent from anywhere.
 
I'm a little bit surprised that the England fixture was placed in Marseille to be honest.

They know there's a hostile element in the local population that's only going to inflame the situation. Without doing any research, surely there's a venue with a lesser chance of a flashpoint. Russian ultra's and a few tanked up idiots aside, at least one of the problems could have avoided.

I think everyone is coming to the conclusion that the French security forces are a complete shambles, look at all this and then look back at all the terrorist attacks and lack of catching them quickly in the recent months proves it, they are useless and as the poster above said, things will get worse and there is a long way to go before this competition ends.
 
A fair few muppets posting here, have a listen to the 65 year old on LBC there with his 20 year old sons, one laying on top of him and got kicked in, the other throwing punches to protect his father, do you think they went over to fight, he even spoke about a young lad with his arms out getting nutted and ****ing himself ffs


England's got the history of having the mobs but it's done and dusted, no where near like the 70s/80s and early 90s truth is we don't live in a **** hole country and can get away with punching seven bells out of each other and get away with it.

All the lads who would be doing that have had banning orders on Association or Past domestic banning orders that's fact, no not every single one but a fair old few.

Poor planning, poor policing and the killer mentality of Russian mob is the coffin nail, ban England and it's a farce.

FYI I had mates over there and they aren't the type to get involved with any of this and was tear gassed, mugged and attacked by police gas while having a drink .



Nobody is saying it is all English, we all know the Russians scum are far worse, but it has been confirmed and witnessed by plenty that English fans also started fights etc.

We also know that innocent people, women and kids have been caught up in it, have you not read the recent posts, the Russians target anyone from anywhere.
 
That was unbelievable, like you said, they are winning so why the violence, it does not make sense.

I wonder if it could be Russians dressed as Croatians hahaha

e: The amount of flares was shocking and that load bang, i wasn't sure what it was, put someone went down and was helped off the pitch.
 
Yes the players deserve as much credit as they can get, i noticed quite a lot of riot police in front the stand with the trouble, good to see compared to what we saw in the England\Russia game.
 
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