"It's a real sport" :- Video Game World Cup

burnsy2023 said:
I'm surprised they're only playing the original version of CS.

Definatly a sport though, requires skill and practice.

Burnsy

Shame Poker isnt classed as a sport then as this takes skill and practice too.
 
Just like to say good luck to team Sisterhood who are representing the UK in the female tournament :)

Well.. they were called sisterhood, now OS G-stars.

BBC said:
In preparation for the event, the team has, over the last six months, been playing five nights a week for five hours at a time.

"We've had no lives. But we're really looking forward to it. Girls really enjoy the team-based atmosphere.

Er, no they haven't, they never play as a team, lying gits! :o
 
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I wouldn't class it as a sport - as it doesn't require any athletic prowess. Skill and co-ordination, yes - but 'vigorous physical activity' no.

Given that there are plenty of physical activities which still aren't formally recognised as sports (such as paintball), then computer gaming is way down the list.
 
But there are plenty of non athletic activities that are classed as sports. Archery, Rifle shooting, Hell all kinds of motor-sports, power-boating for instance requires very little athleticism, bowls, curling they all get TV time and are classed as sports.

eSports is -huge- in asia, in Korea especially it's the more popular than any sporting events. America is also getting in on this in a big way, with companies like MTV getting in on the big tournaments. TV channels in Europe are really keen to get in on this early, as they expect it to take off as well here too.
 
Moredhel said:
But there are plenty of non athletic activities that are classed as sports. Archery, Rifle shooting, Hell all kinds of motor-sports, power-boating for instance requires very little athleticism, bowls, curling they all get TV time and are classed as sports.

eSports is -huge- in asia, in Korea especially it's the more popular than any sporting events. America is also getting in on this in a big way, with companies like MTV getting in on the big tournaments. TV channels in Europe are really keen to get in on this early, as they expect it to take off as well here too.

They aren't sports. They are games or athletics. Calling them 'sports' is simply a marketing tool.

Here's a good definition of sport that I found.

1. An individual playing session is held between exactly two opposing players or teams.
2. The successful completion of a playing session results in a win for one player or team and a loss for the other or a tie between the two players or teams.
3. An integer score is assigned to each team corresponding directly to the number of times certain predetermined actions are performed by that team. The only judgment by any official regarding the score is whether these actions were performed. The winner of the playing session is determined by the final score.
4. The players regularly engage in rapid, self-propelled locomotion. Examples include, but are not limited to, running, skating, and swimming.
5. The duration of the game is limited either by time or by the completion of a preselected number of play units, the scope of which is determined by the completion of certain events during play.
6. The objective of the activity does not at any time directly involve physically harming an opponent.
7. The status of a solid inanimate object, movable by the force of one player, is of central importance when play is active. Furthermore, when play is active, the object is not physically attached to any player; and it is not rendered motionless, held, or contained by any player for an extended period of time.
8. No live animals, other than humans, are used.

Source is not official or anything, but it sounds quite accurate to me.
 
But it's not about what the dictionary definition says, it's about what Joe Public thinks, I for one count all those things I listed as sports. I'm sure most others would too. It may be marketing as you say, but then it's worked. Why can't it for so called eSports?
 
Starcraft is immensely huge in S.korea. iirc it's also the second best selling game after the sims?

Gaming is a hobby, I'd never really consider it a sport as to me a sport is something physical that anyone can do without needs to buy a load of equipment.
 
Kreeeee said:
Starcraft is immensely huge in S.korea. iirc it's also the second best selling game after the sims?

Gaming is a hobby, I'd never really consider it a sport as to me a sport is something physical that anyone can do without needs to buy a load of equipment.
I wouldn't like to try something like rock climbing without buying a load of equipment. I'd imagine kayaking or sailing would become hard without equipment too. ;)

I think at the end of the day there is an -enormous- amount of money in this for the broadcasters and sponsors, literally billions of dollars. If calling it a sport gets more money for said companies, then that's what they'll do, no matter what other people might think. Although I'm sure they might re-consider if psyr33n had his way. ;)
 
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Moredhel said:
But it's not about what the dictionary definition says, it's about what Joe Public thinks, I for one count all those things I listed as sports. I'm sure most others would too. It may be marketing as you say, but then it's worked. Why can't it for so called eSports?

That's not a dictionary definition, it's just one I liked.

I think citing what most people think is a spurious argument without actually providing any kind of backup for it, but in any case, Joe Public is often pretty ignorant about most things so it doesn't make it correct.
If, however, I were to call upon what 'most people' think, then I would agree that most would consider, say, golf or boxing to be sports but not darts, snooker or archery and certainly not computer games.

I am a keen computer gamer myself and fully believe that they have the same right to be publically enjoyed and competed for, but they are not sports and never will be.
 
I think the problem is sports are like countries, there's no proper definition of what counts as one and what doesn't. My common sense would tell me that it's not a sport because it doesn't involve physical activity (not much anyway). But there are lot's of things that are often considered sports that don't either.
 
Psyk said:
I think the problem is sports are like countries, there's no proper definition of what counts as one and what doesn't. My common sense would tell me that it's not a sport because it doesn't involve physical activity (not much anyway). But there are lot's of things that are often considered sports that don't either.

What about in the future, when gaming becomes so interactive that you utilise every part of your body? They're already doing it with the likes of the Wii, and I can definately see future gaming becoming more like that.

Does such physical exertion not constitute sport, by what you're saying?
 
Deiwos said:
What about in the future, when gaming becomes so interactive that you utilise every part of your body? They're already doing it with the likes of the Wii, and I can definately see future gaming becoming more like that.

Does such physical exertion not constitute sport, by what you're saying?
Dunno really. I'm not sure how to define a sport. In the end I don't suppose it really matter whether you call it a sport or not, it can still be a serious competition regardless.
 
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