Not in February he didn't - at least I don't think he did.
Now that his process has reached this point it'll be interesting to see what the FA comes out with in the next few days.
Ivan Toney banned for 8 months
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Now that his process has reached this point it'll be interesting to see what the FA comes out with in the next few days.
Soldato
If bookies are daft enough to take bets on things like transfers then they deserve to get rinsed by people with inside information as far as I’m concerned. Players betting on matches is much more serious as it puts the integrity of the sport in question. Just because Toney wasn’t involved in matches he is betting on doesn’t mean he isn’t friends with players who are.
Its because many many years ago when the bookies at the horse races used to yell out the odds, 10 to 3 (10/3) would get mistaken for the upcoming race at 2.50pm.
Soldato
It does seem a little harsh but the rules couldn't be clearer. What is also clear is the absolute rank hypocrisy from all the football authorities who normalise sports gambling by taking league sponsorship from a betting company and allow other betting companies to plaster their logos all over the shirts of almost half the players in the premier league.
Not good when wealthy young lads with lots of spare time use them, fine when they are funnelling 60 million quid a year into the pockets of club owners and league officials though.
Not good when wealthy young lads with lots of spare time use them, fine when they are funnelling 60 million quid a year into the pockets of club owners and league officials though.
Caporegime
He has done the crime so needs to do the time. I just find it amazing how quickly the FA can dish out these penalties yet City are on the verge of a historic treble and nothing has been done with them?
Soldato
Christ man, city‘s punishment will be in a different league than Toney’s. I understand your in a hurry to get city’s punishment done so they don’t match the other Manchester club‘s treble, but the PL will have to be absolutely watertight with all there ducks in order and with absolutely no avenue of escape or loophole, which sadly takes time. City’s lawyers will be the best on the planet and any sort of loophole or **** up by the PL will see them get away Scott free. Do you want it done quickly or do you want it done properly?
Caporegime
City will tie the PL up in court for years and ultimately nothing will happen. Ivan Toney has broken a very simple rule and therefore the punishment of it is quite simple.
People will either not care that City have broken a plethora of rules or they will care but ultimately it won't make much difference. Their leagues will stand, their CL will stand and they will get a slap on the wrist. The damage is done. City are a fantastically run outfit and I struggle to see many other teams being able to compete with them. Liverpool managed it for a short time but you need some massive slices of luck to be able to do that.
Perhaps when the likes of De Bruyne and Haaland leave City they will drop a level and it will be a competition again.
This will definitely be the outcome of the City situation. There will be no punishment for City. Its all too convoluted, City and its owners are too strong and too canny. Compared to that, Toney is a soft easy straight forward target.
Whilst I agree the city situation will drag on for years, I still believe they will eventually face a punishment, the PL charges aren't the same as the UEFA ones in that the PL isn't restricted to the same time barring reasons as to why city escaped previously with UEFA and CAS.
IF they do end up with any punishment it will be so inconsequential to the City owners as to effectively be no punishment at all.
Stripping them of the titles/cups they won would be sufficient, I agree any monetary fine would be inconsequential
Caporegime
Of course they will face a punishment and it will be completely inconsequential to them. Large fine and perhaps at the very most a points deduction for a single season. They won't be stripped of any titles or trophies and it will ultimately be a slap on the wrist. They will play the victim. Their fans will lap it up and they will continue as they were. You could at this point give City a 2 year transfer ban and they would be fine. Their squad is that strong and deep.
Soldato
Looking to push the ban worldwide as to stop a loan move to circumnavigate the ban https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65637363
I don't believe like most that the City punishment will come to nothing if found guilty. They cannot strip them of anything effectively without other teams that lost out complaining for the next 50 years about what they should get. I think they will get a points deception large enough to sit them mid table for that year to remove them for Europe. For example if they have run the books well and properly for the last 3 years how do you do anything about this year if they win the treble.
I also highly doubt they are the only team that have done this, just on the largest scale.
I also highly doubt they are the only team that have done this, just on the largest scale.
Soldato
I feel a bit for Toney. He showed a lot of early potential, then made the mistake of signing for a club that is notoriously bad at nurturing young talent. Then lifts his game to having the season he's had, with an England call up and now this. He's just a young lad who's made a mistake, and then repeated it 232 times 
I was listening to Steven Caulker on a podcast the other week. He was smashing 200k in a time in casinos when at Spurs.
I was listening to Steven Caulker on a podcast the other week. He was smashing 200k in a time in casinos when at Spurs.
The FA have released all the details around Toney's ban:
Despite what I thought was the case, there were loads of bets involving himself and his own teams and 8 months seems lenient. He placed bets on himself to score, his team to win and although he didn't feature in any of these matches, he was betting on his own team to lose matches too. The FA were pushing for a much longer ban but the commission took into account that Toney had a gambling addiction and reduced it to 8 months.
Despite what I thought was the case, there were loads of bets involving himself and his own teams and 8 months seems lenient. He placed bets on himself to score, his team to win and although he didn't feature in any of these matches, he was betting on his own team to lose matches too. The FA were pushing for a much longer ban but the commission took into account that Toney had a gambling addiction and reduced it to 8 months.
Wow, he’s a lucky boy to get off with 8 months.