I've Got Someone Sacked .....
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Its not so much forcing someone to throw a sicky, its using some decency and giving a guy a chance to avoid going into work and meeting the big boss man.
If you go into work and say "Alright boss I went to pick *NAME* up but he seemed half cut so I told him to sleep it off and not do it again , you will have to give him a call"
Then you have done the right thing by keeping him off the premises and you put the ball in your bosses court.
It's really quite mad that people don't think this would be normal course of action. I dunno what kind of places people work in. But going direct to the boss after chatting to someone personally is NOT the best way
If you go into work and say "Alright boss I went to pick *NAME* up but he seemed half cut so I told him to sleep it off and not do it again , you will have to give him a call"
Then you have done the right thing by keeping him off the premises and you put the ball in your bosses court.
It's really quite mad that people don't think this would be normal course of action. I dunno what kind of places people work in. But going direct to the boss after chatting to someone personally is NOT the best way
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Christ almighty everyone is so self-righteous. The guy was the definition of a ****. If he didn't want the sack, he shouldn't have drank before work. Simple as that
Sometimes people do silly things. Many people go out on the lash the night before, get up for work at 6am and think they are magically under the drink drive limit. Everything is relative.
If it was me I would have dropped him back off at his house, told him to pull a sicky and not to do it again otherwise next time i'd have to report him.
Everyone deserves a chance, second chance he's on his own.
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He's gonna turn up at your house one day soon and shank you and your family! Prison rules apply as said before!
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i have had a long think about what i would have done, if i were in the OPs position / shoes, putting aside my experiences, current responsibilities and personality and if being put on the spot, i would have pretty much done what the op did.
if I was put in this situation, as me now, I would take my colleague home. there is no question on whether I would report it, because I would. but the burning question which I can’t resolve in my mind is whether I would tell him I was going to report him or not on the way home.
if this had been in a simple office environment, i would happily just take him home and say nothing more of it but tell him he is a plonker.
OP still did the right thing,
I don't understand the people calling the OP a coward
The cowardly thing to do would be ignore it and hope it goes away.
No the cowardly nothing to do was sit smugly listen to some yop telling him had as few beers before work, then not, having the guts to call him on it right there, no he rather slid along to boss and asked for a few cookies and milk.
I would have serious doubts about his character, worse still he refers to this guy as a m8, I would have no issue with this guy had he done this right.
And if he worked for me this is what I would judge as the correct way in handling this
a) soon as he was told this he should have taken.his mat back home or dropped him off there saying do not come to work under the influence.
b) when arriving at work he should then have alerted either his boos or the HR of the situation
This guy may still have lost his job, thats not the OP fault, it never was the only thing the OP is guilty of is his handling of this.
Again if I was his boss his behavior /character in this would always be under question.
Again I will say he only put this on here for vindication of his acts he want to be perceived as the hero and not the snake!
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as with a lot of people claiming to be good bosses and judging this situation, you fall right into the category of those that arn't.
What's cowardly about how he acted. Surely as a team leader it's not his job to call him up on this anyway? (Team leaders here have zilch power as such).
Whether he took him to work or not surely would have made no difference if he was to report the incident anyway?
What if they were just arriving at work after a long drive, should OP have then been late for work himself in order to protect a colleague who was playing with fire?
I don't think OPs handling of the situation was wrong, he did exactly what I would have done.
Absolutely lol-o-rific.
Dons, it's time to close this forum down as we shouldn't be posting anything to do with our day to day lives at all, as clearly we're all just looking for approval rather than a discussion. RIP GD.
Sums it up for me.
I don't get why people are so fixated on there being such a dramatic difference whether he takes him home or brings him to work? As long as he isn't allowed to operate machinery under the influence, it's a moot point.
The only real factor which matters is whether the OP told his manager or not, and in this case telling the manager is the right thing to do.
I'm sure the OP wasn't sitting there in his car rubbing his hands together gleefully and grinning while developing this evil plot in his mind, which is what you seem to be making out.
If he hadn't told his manager, but had sent his mate home to take a sick day, and his mate did it again the next week but without telling him, and it came out that he'd known why he was "sick" the first time, then there'd be two people getting sacked.
Has the OP said what machinery is involved?
Also when the lad told you he had been drinking i'm sure you knew straight away what you would do and that would be to inform higher management.
So basically whilst he told you it wasnt during working hours so you could have just told him to do one and go home and call in sick but basically you said nothing and took him into work and stitched him up good and proper.
If he has been a good worker for a year and a half i presume this is the first time he has done this so why couldnt you of just told him to call in sick and not let it happen again?
You give him a lift to work so you must talk about life issues and such and you still do this to him, harsh...very harsh.
With friends like you who needs enemies.
Also when the lad told you he had been drinking i'm sure you knew straight away what you would do and that would be to inform higher management.
So basically whilst he told you it wasnt during working hours so you could have just told him to do one and go home and call in sick but basically you said nothing and took him into work and stitched him up good and proper.
If he has been a good worker for a year and a half i presume this is the first time he has done this so why couldnt you of just told him to call in sick and not let it happen again?
You give him a lift to work so you must talk about life issues and such and you still do this to him, harsh...very harsh.
With friends like you who needs enemies.
You should probably read the post above yours, which sums up exactly why he couldn't just send him home.
never claimed to be a good boss, but I certainly was an effective one
.. its funny how people like you read one thing and reply to something that was not even there ..try again.UPDATE: Talking to my supervisor today about it and he said when he went into the office with the lad he could immediately smell beer and told me he'd definitely had more than 4 cans (his words). The sunroof on my car was open which is why I didn't smell anything. Also I went to my manager and more or less said that he's a good worker and everyone deserves a second chance. The reply I got from him was 'if he was a bad worker and done the same thing would you want him back?'