I've only gone and done it - I've bought an MG! (Pics inside)

I like it!

Its a small sporty looking car, which does not look tarted up, looks like it should look like it! (unlike other cars... Fiesta Zetec Sport thingy, sorry for people who have one!)

However, what is the preformace actually like? And whats the difference between a normal Rover 200/25 and the MG versions?

I think the interior looks bad in the pic, my housemate has the old 200 bubble shape, and the interior is not that bad in real life.

Congratulations on your new car anyway!:)
 
S@njay said:
I like it!

Its a small sporty looking car, which does not look tarted up, looks like it should look like it! (unlike other cars... Fiesta Zetec Sport thingy, sorry for people who have one!)

However, what is the preformace actually like? And whats the difference between a normal Rover 200/25 and the MG versions?

I think the interior looks bad in the pic, my housemate has the old 200 bubble shape, and the interior is not that bad in real life.

Congratulations on your new car anyway!:)
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Hi

Thanks!

To me, it seems rather quick. It's rated at 8.6 seconds to 60 I think which is pretty quick, and a lot quicker than my Astra 1.4. It's a torquey engine too - you get a roar when you put your foot down which is nice

It's got harder suspension, uprated brakes, uprated steering and a few other things to turn it into a drivers car over the 200/25

I'm tempted to buy a brushed alumium silver trim for the inside to replace the fake carbon fibre - what do people think?

s0ck said:
Very nice :)
You might want to get in the habit of checking there's warm air coming through the heaters :p
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Cheers

lol :D
 
Tesla said:
The K series engine is actually designed to to be good at low revs so I have never understood why they dump it in sportier cars, even the Elise I have never understood.
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I think that's the case for the 8v Chris... the 16v is totally different.

A week after I bought the GSi, I went to pick the 214 up from the garage. It felt so bloody slow I could have cried.

After it had warmed up I started giving it a bit of beans. "So that's where the power is!"

The K loves revving for a reason... you could definitely feel a kick after 4000rpm in the 214. And as me and westy found out at MM3, the difference 0-60 wise between the 214 and 220 isn't much at all, even though the 220 feels miles faster than the 214 (although I blame having to put it into 3rd to get 60 :()

Just as a sidenote, I had a bit of a traffic light GP with a 25 GTi last night... 143bhp 1.8 VVC. I absolutely obliterated him (and yes, he was trying :p)

Regarding your car aj, does it have the drilled discs from the 160? I was shocked when I saw drilled discs on a ZR! And I'd never get tired of the K's roar! I drilled the airbox on mine, and when I was following a work colleague to an office in Leeds, we went through quite a few tunnels. I held back so that I could boot it through the tunnels, and... oh, yes! :cool:
 
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No it's the case for the 16v too.
It's designed to operate at low revs. It's why the temp sensor is mouted on the engine inlet as apposed to outlet.

It means the engine heats up fast but the downside is it cannot respond well to quick changes in temperature. We all know what that leads to!
 
agw_01 said:
Just as a sidenote, I had a bit of a traffic light GP with a 25 GTi last night... 143bhp 1.8 VVC. I absolutely obliterated him (and yes, he was trying :p)
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You had a camera view of his right foot?

If you absolutely obliterated him, he wasn't trying. There isn't that much in it between the two performance wise. Certainly the GSi is quicker but not quick enough for obliteration to occur.
 
[TW]Fox said:
You had a camera view of his right foot?

If you absolutely obliterated him, he wasn't trying. There isn't that much in it between the two performance wise. Certainly the GSi is quicker but not quick enough for obliteration to occur.
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I knew that was coming :p :D

Ok, here's what happened... just for you Fox.

He set off first. I didn't even think of going for it until he started pulling away, so I floored it. By the end of 1st gear, we were pretty much even. 2nd gear my front end was just passing his, by the end of 2nd the rear of my car was about in line with his front bumper. Into 3rd and he was falling back a bit more (but not as much as if he'd let off).

Ok, so maybe the words 'absolutely obliterated' were overly used ;) but I was very suprised that I pulled away so much... especially seeing as how he'd got a much quicker start.
 
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Tesla said:
No it's the case for the 16v too.
It's designed to operate at low revs. It's why the temp sensor is mouted on the engine inlet as apposed to outlet.

It means the engine heats up fast but the downside is it cannot respond well to quick changes in temperature. We all know what that leads to!
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So why do people specifically state that the K loves to rev? And why does it have absolutely no pull until 4000rpm?

I'm not questioning your motive here... but I don't agree with saying that the K is meant to be good at low revs. :)
 
Tesla said:
No it's the case for the 16v too.
It's designed to operate at low revs. It's why the temp sensor is mouted on the engine inlet as apposed to outlet.

It means the engine heats up fast but the downside is it cannot respond well to quick changes in temperature. We all know what that leads to!
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The thermostat positioning has nothing to do with the intended operating RPM range, that was purely for faster warm up/reduced emmisions. If the K series hates revving so much, why did they give it variable valve timing? How did Caterham manage to extract 230bhp from it? Why is the redline so high?

If lower revving engines are so poor for sports cars, why do so many of them have V8's? :D
 
I havn't said that the engine is not an incredible piece of machinery, it is. And I agree that it's excellent for race cars as it is just so light.

However, it was originally designed for the purpose I said. Driving to the shops. Driving into town. Driving to work.

If it wasnt the thermostat simply would not be on the inlet. It has no benefit there other than for short journeys.

So I think you are wrong. The engine was intened to operate at relatively low RPM.

However, it is excellent at 4k-7k as stated.
 
Tesla said:
However, it was originally designed for the purpose I said. Driving to the shops. Driving into town. Driving to work.

If it wasnt the thermostat simply would not be on the inlet. It has no benefit there other than for short journeys.
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Good point! I didn't actually think of that.

Just think, if the thermostat wasn't on the inlet, how many headgaskets Rover would have sold?

They would have gone out of business a long time ago. :o :D
 
Tesla said:
I havn't said that the engine is not an incredible piece of machinery, it is. And I agree that it's excellent for race cars as it is just so light.

However, it was originally designed for the purpose I said. Driving to the shops. Driving into town. Driving to work.

If it wasnt the thermostat simply would not be on the inlet. It has no benefit there other than for short journeys.

So I think you are wrong. The engine was intened to operate at relatively low RPM.

However, it is excellent at 4k-7k as stated.
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What it was designed for and what it turned out to be good for are totally seperate. The Ford GT's engine was designed to be used by a pickup truck. Didn't stop it being a supercar did it?

http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/thecar/engine/rover.html
 
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I came in here expecting to find a 1973 MG B GT. I miss mine :( Nice car though mate.

Mic said:
I sure could go for some worthers original right now.

As for the car, not my kinda thing.
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I have some on my shelf. Asked my Mother to buy me a packet the other day. I'm 21 for goodness sake :(
 
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agw_01 said:
Good point! I didn't actually think of that.

Just think, if the thermostat wasn't on the inlet, how many headgaskets Rover would have sold?

They would have gone out of business a long time ago. :o :D
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There is a kit for the Elise to move the thermostat to the outlet. Not sure of the implications/benefits. Just know there is one :)
 
Tesla said:
There is a kit for the Elise to move the thermostat to the outlet. Not sure of the implications/benefits. Just know there is one :)
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That's simply due to the massive distance between the rad and engine. with the Fwd Rover setup the thermostat opens when the engine is hot and lets in cold water from the rad, this makes the engine cool down and so the stat closes and lets the engine warm back up.

This rapid heat cyling does the engine no favours.
 
:O Is a lot of money for the MG, am i reading this correctly - the + spec on your MG ZR didn't add aircon? Lunacy.

Nice car (And nice colour) none the less. When its back up, pop over to http://www.xtrememgr.com/ and say hi :cool:
 
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