Ivy-e roadmap, confirmed

[Nuclear Fusion]

3820 gives you more PCI-E lanes, quad channel RAM, an upgrade path and a soldered IHS which pretty much guarantees higher clocks (although that's negated by the IPC being slightly slower). It's also cheaper than a 3770k.

Not all of those will be true of 4770k vs 4820k, particularly the upgrade path.

In fact the upgrade paths will swap around, with the 4770k most likely having an upgrade path to Broadwell on the 1150 socket, whereas the 2011 socket will most likely be dead after IB-E.

 

[kitkat9933]

In fact the upgrade paths will swap around, with the 4770k most likely having an upgrade path to Broadwell on the 1150 socket, whereas the 2011 socket will most likely be dead after IB-E.

But anything on IVY-E is still likely to destroy anything in Broadwell.

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

But anything on IVY-E is still likely to destroy anything in Broadwell.

Sure, if you're talking about the hex core IB-E chips compared to the 4770k in multithreaded applications, but I'm talking about the 4820k vs the 4770k (both quad cores with hyperthreading). So I very much doubt the 4820k will 'destroy' the 4770k, just like the 3820 does not 'destroy' the 3770k (or 2600k/2700k).

 

[Drangueos]

Saving money already!!

 

[tbh]

So I very much doubt the 4820k will 'destroy' the 4770k, just like the 3820 does not 'destroy' the 3770k (or 2600k/2700k).

If anything the 4770k is likely to have a slight IPC increase over the 4820k which will only widen as more software takes advantage of AVX2 and FMA3; Broadwell is likely to further increase this lead.

 

[Martini1991]

No one knows anything about the new AMD 8 core cpu's in use on the PS4 yet. Your just assuming they are the old type. Let's wait and see, shall we?

They're jaguar cores. Low powered.
I'm urring and arring about them to be honest.

Same as I would if they were 8 Clovertrail cores.

 

[DiscoDave]

Interesting roadmap.

Would a i7 920 -> Ivy-E a better move than i7 920 > Haswell?

 

[Dave2150]

Interesting roadmap.

Would a i7 920 -> Ivy-E a better move than i7 920 > Haswell?

Of course it would, but the Ivy E will be over twice the price, so it's understandable.

 

[pgi947]

Not in some scenarios. I expect the 4820K to come in around the same price as a 4770K. Around that £230 mark.

 

[wolvers]

Not in some scenarios. I expect the 4820K to come in around the same price as a 4770K. Around that £230 mark.

Are you looking to get a 4820k to replace your 3820?

I think if I get an IB-E it would have to be a hex core, the slight increase in IPC doesn't seem worth it to go from 3820 to 4820k. I don't expect the 4820 to clock any higher than my 5ghz 3820.

 

[pgi947]

I promised my self a 4960x though if money is a little tight I'll settle on a 4930k.

Really looking forward to a stronger memory controller though

 

[wolvers]

How did you get on with the new sticks?

 

[pgi947]

The Kingston sticks are running along fine at 2400mhz though tune about as well as some cheap 1600 c9 sticks

G.skill kit is due on Friday

 

[Drangueos]

I need to stop reading about new tech... I always start to regret buying the last one

 

[jonneymendoza]

You are missing a piece of the jigsaw here though and that is power consumption.

At the high-end our rigs are already running around 1KW-1.2KW from the wall, there is no further headroom.

In order for Intel to go 8 core, the power consumption needs to come down by a fair chunk.

Ivy Bridge E should give us a slight performance bump with a 25% power drop under load, this is a major advance.

If the new GPU's from AMD/NV achieve the same, we are looking at sub 800W from the wall for slightly higher performance.

Personally, I would be happy with the power drop and higher per clock performance, not more cores but i doubt we will see the latter.

What it might give us though is a slightly higher overclock limit due to the power drop and die shrink, we could be hitting 5.5-6GHZ with these chips for short benches.

I actually find myself wanting lower power consumption/heat production these days as well as the higher performance. I have owned too many hot running parts in the past 10 years and they have not been worth the hassle.

where r u getting this 1kw off the wall stuff? i have a 480gtx and a i7 920 and my psu is only a 800w and it is more sufficient. both my cpu and gpu are power hungry and when you throw in 5 hdd's a dvd drive and a water cooler system with a total of 7 fans running. that is drawing quite a lot of power.

Some can even SLI on a 800w psu.

1kw psu is overkill especially if u buy current cpu and gpu's

 

[Kaapstad]

where r u getting this 1kw off the wall stuff? i have a 480gtx and a i7 920 and my psu is only a 800w and it is more sufficient. both my cpu and gpu are power hungry and when you throw in 5 hdd's a dvd drive and a water cooler system with a total of 7 fans running. that is drawing quite a lot of power.

Some can even SLI on a 800w psu.

1kw psu is overkill especially if u buy current cpu and gpu's

Mine can pull around 1370 watts at the wall.

 

[ubersonic]

1kw psu is overkill especially if u buy current cpu and gpu's

Actually your GTX480 (250w) draws less than a GTX570 (317w), GTX580 (326w), GTX590 (335w), the 600 series are better with the GTX690 (334w) and Titan (263w) as is the HD7970 GHz edition (273w), with SLi/Xfire numbers rise ofc.

Hey if you wanna go for worst case scenario an ASUS ARES can hit 647w draw (that's JUST the card).

 

[Yaayuh!]

3930K @ 4.64 @ 1.425v
2x 7970 @ 1300 @ 1.35v each

Draws a ridiculous amount of power at load.

As soon as you start to push the voltage on current enthusast kit, you really do require high watt rated PSUs.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Actually your GTX480 (250w) draws less than a GTX570 (317w), GTX580 (326w), GTX590 (335w), the 600 series are better with the GTX690 (334w) and Titan (263w) as is the HD7970 GHz edition (273w), with SLi/Xfire numbers rise ofc.

Hey if you wanna go for worst case scenario an ASUS ARES can hit 647w draw (that's JUST the card).

Point is. i have a 800w psu with a high end gpu and cpu and yet im all good?

U dont need 1kw for a high end GPU and CPU. maybe for SLI but certainly not for one high end GPU

 

[Yaayuh!]

Point is. i have a 800w psu with a high end gpu and cpu and yet im all good?

U dont need 1kw for a high end GPU and CPU. maybe for SLI but certainly not for one high end GPU

Well no, not for a single CPU and Single GPU no. A good 800-850W PSU would be fine for that.