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which ssd?

Gonna order tonight... Got to be 64 80 maybe 2 of these... Or 1 x 128. Which would you get in stock tonight?

Can't decide!
Intel 80?
2 x 40 intel?

Vertex ?
 
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In my opinion the Intel 80GB M (make sure it's Gen 2).

Reason - it's faster and cheaper than the Vertex, assuming you are using it as your OS drive?

I wouldn't get the 2x40GB V Intel purely because one it's the hassle of setting up RAID, then it could always go wrong/crash. Then the second you put them in RAID, TRIM is negated so over time you will notice a performance drop.

That's my opinion anyway but others are bound to disagree.
 
I'd agree with everything VortX says - I would've suggested the RAID option until recently, when I found out how badly the performance of the array can degrade without TRIM.

Looking ahead, you could treat yourself to RAID0 X25-M in the future, once the hub drivers have been updated to handle TRIM. :)
 
when I found out how badly the performance of the array can degrade without TRIM.

I certainly haven't found this to be the case and I have had 2 x 80GB Intel X25-M G2s in RAID0 since 22nd October 2009 (with Win 7)...
 
I certainly haven't found this to be the case and I have had 2 x 80GB Intel X25-M G2s in RAID0 since 22nd October 2009 (with Win 7)...

2 months isn't really anything to go by, give it some time, and look at benchmarks from when you first got it and then do the same benchmark and the performance will degrade over time.
 
look at benchmarks from when you first got it and then do the same benchmark and the performance will degrade over time.

Maybe I should clarify my answer in previous post, it was not to suggest that there would be absolutely no degradation in performance, but that it would not be quite like this:

how badly the performance of the array can degrade
 
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Maybe I should clarify my answer in previous post, it was not to suggest that there would be absolutely no degradation in performance, but that it would not be quite like this:

Well obviously you are having a better experience than rjkoneill, a OCUK admin on this forum as I'm sure you well know, this is his:

"well i currently have a pair of 80gbs in my system and the performance degredation through lack of TRIM is pretty bad.

example:
500MB/s+ read speads when new
210MB/s+ read speeds after 2 months use

i dont even want to discuss the write speeds

i am moving to a single 160gb drive soon myself as the latest firmware actually improves the 160gb's performance and keeps it performing that well"

Maybe you haven't noticed real world performance decrease? I imagine even at a speed like that you wouldn't, however It is still a poor outcome and questions the need for RAID with SSDs if that happens 2 months down the line?
 
500MB/s+ read speads when new
210MB/s+ read speeds after 2 months use

He certainly has a real problem there, however I think a big part of his problem is somehing else and not at all related to having no TRIM operational; my reads just after 22nd October were >540MB/s and after two and a half months it still gives me 538MB/s (in HDTach), so the reads have not really dropped at all, however one of the writes (4K-64Thrd in AS SSD Benchmark) has dropped some, however, the other 2, Seq and 4K writes have only slightly decresed.

questions the need for RAID with SSDs if that happens 2 months down the line?

RAID0 on either mechanical HDDs or SSDs is ONLY beneficial if one is working with large files (ie. copying/moving video files) or unzipping a lot large compressed (of which I do the first), for any other purpose there is NO performance gain!

The above is from my own experience, NOT from somebody's elses! ;)
 
Raid 0 has always been a great performance boost in the short term, troubles normally arise down the road at some point, a single G2 drive should be more than adequate for the task although from my experience the 80GB is a bit small so use it for the OS drive only.

My G1 drive developed a fault a few months back so I got a refund, thinking of getting a G2 now.
 
thanks guys - will get the 80gb Intel....
and then another maybe later....

think Ill keep my 2 raptors as well to see which I like - and then will sell / keep what I prefer...

Have 1 tb drive for data so space aint that much of a problem.

just gonna hold till after the weekend as I dont think the couriors will get here anytime soon ;)
 
Isn't the degradation problem with SSDs only meant to affect write speeds? Read somewhere that read speeds should stay largely the same.

Yes, that's basically it, hence why I queried the figures quoted in Post #8...

It was only my writes that dropped some...
 
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