Jail For Disabled people

Zip · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:07

Why are there no Jails for people with Disabilities? :confused:

Im asking this because my girlfriend is a carer and she has to work with this ****** who Stole a Car then proceeded to give him self a slight bit of brain damage when he crashed it and got him self a good behaviour bond(Asbo or something similar over there i would imagine)

Then sometime a while back(after the car accident hes put some guy in a comma by picking up a shovel and hitting him in the face with it numerous times.
He had his court case last week and what did he get? Another good behaviour bond :rolleyes:

The reason why he didnt go to jail? The Judge said he should be in jail but he cant put him in jail because he would be killed because of his slight brain damage and his epilepsy.

So why isnt there a Jail to lock these ****** up so they can serve time with out gettign killed? Instead of giving them bloody Good behaviour bonds over and over again!

FULLY STAR OUT SWEARIES

Nebzor · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:10

Well, it appears to be because it's "inhumane" to treat a disabled person that way. I don't see why they do get so much special treatment, when it is wrong to treat them differently unless it's in a really beneficial way to them.

Funny how disabled people used to be given to science, burned, maimed, left behind to die, not fed, rejected etc. and now it's wrong to punish them like you would punish a similar able person.

Toryglen-boy · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:10

Zip said:
Why are there no Jails for people with Disabilities?

Im asking this because my girlfriend is a carer and she has to work with this ****** who Stole a Car then proceeded to give him self a slight bit of brain damage when he crashed it and got him self a good behaviour bond(Asbo or something similar over there i would imagine)

Then sometime a while back(after the car accident hes put some guy in a comma by picking up a shovel and hitting him in the face with it numerous times.
He had his court case last week and what did he get? Another good behaviour bond

The reason why he didnt go to jail? The Judge said he should be in jail but he cant put him in jail because he would be killed because of his slight brain damage and his epilepsy.

So why isnt there a Jail to lock these ******* up so they can serve time with out gettign killed? Instead of giving them bloody Good behaviour bonds over and over again!

christ! where did that happen mate?

dirtydog · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:12

I've never thought about it but I'm sure they do jail disabled people, whether physically or mentally, if they commit sufficiently serious crimes. The judge in this instance sounds like too many of the ones here in Britain.

233 · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:14

send them all ba...... och wrong minority

Efour · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:16

Does the law not say mentally ill people are not/cannot be deemed responsible for their actions?

if he didn't understand what he had done is immoral and wrong then why bang them up? For the satisfaction of the victim?

Just playing devils advocate, pretty messed up situation.

Samtheman1k · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:18

Efour2 said:
if he didn't understand what he had done is immoral and wrong then why bang them up? For the satisfaction of the victim?

Err...to stop them doing to someone else????

Darg · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:18

Exactly, teach them it is wrong by doing the exact same thing back to them.

*grips his shovel* harhar..

dirtydog · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:19

Efour2 said:
Does the law not say mentally ill people are not/cannot be deemed responsible for their actions?

if he didn't understand what he had done is immoral and wrong then why bang them up? For the satisfaction of the victim?

Just playing devils advocate, pretty messed up situation.

If that was the case then the judge wouldn't have punished him at all would he.

Zip · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:21

Toryglen-boy said:
christ! where did that happen mate?

Im not sure we he bashed the guys head into but he now lives around South Western NSW.

My girlfriend said he has major anger issues and has been told by the courts that he has to do anger management classes. For the 2nd time

Before he had to have 24 hour surveillance aswell and wasnt aloud to leave his carers sight. and most his carers are women and he contently gropes them :mad:

Im extremely ****** off at the moment because he tryed to push my GF into the Spare room today while trying to grope her :mad:

They could at least use Security Guards to watch him and not bloody respite carers

iCraig · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:22

Mentally disabled people will be simply admitted into a psychiatric home, no?

Physically disabled just have their brakes glued on. Simple.

Zip · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:24

dirtydog said:
I've never thought about it but I'm sure they do jail disabled people, whether physically or mentally, if they commit sufficiently serious crimes. The judge in this instance sounds like too many of the ones here in Britain.

My girlfriend sat in the court case(it was her shift to watch him) and she said the judge was a hard **** and made him stress enough to black him out from his epilepsy 3 times.
Guys like this need to be locked away some how if they cant be put in a regular prison :rolleyes:

BTW he cant sence when hes hungry cold or hot either becaus eof his brain injury and wont eat unless forced

Efour · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:26

Samtheman1k said:
Err...to stop them doing to someone else????

That not prison then is it. But you could use the prison service to effectively throw him away for a few years.

dirtydog · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:27

Zip said:
Guys like this need to be locked away some how if they cant be put in a regular prison

No argument from me. I don't know why he wasn't jailed but the facilities must exist in Australia as they do here.

Samtheman1k · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:29

Efour2 said:
That not prison then is it. But you could use the prison service to effectively throw him away for a few years.

I'm not sure what you are getting at? If you commit a crime, and are put in prison, then you won't be able to do it again, especially if you are in solitary confinement?

Efour · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:29

dirtydog said:
If that was the case then the judge wouldn't have punished him at all would he.

Well i can only assume he had to hand out some kind of sentence to fill a quota then.

Efour · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:31

Samtheman1k said:
I'm not sure what you are getting at? If you commit a crime, and are put in prison, then you won't be able to do it again, especially if you are in solitary confinement?

Different views on Prison i guess, i see it as rehabilitation, you see it as the place where the scum goes till they are paroled and start the cycle all over again.

Toryglen-boy · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:34

dirtydog said:
No argument from me. I don't know why he wasn't jailed but the facilities must exist in Australia as they do here.

they do, i have been here for about 6 months, and penal system is very much like in good old blighty

Zip · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:34

Efour2 said:
Does the law not say mentally ill people are not/cannot be deemed responsible for their actions?

if he didn't understand what he had done is immoral and wrong then why bang them up? For the satisfaction of the victim?

Just playing devils advocate, pretty messed up situation.

Read my other posts to see how much of a danger to society he actually is

Efour · 6 Jul 2007 at 12:37

Just devils advocate mate - arguing for a discussion on it. My feelings ain't with the mentler, maybe you have a prison overcrowding problem too.