January Transfer Window 2019/20

BaZ87 said:
Chelsea have had their transfer ban halved by CAS, meaning they're now free to sign players in January. It'll be interesting to see what sort of business they do having raised a fair amount of money in the summer.
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Not sure they will do much at all. They are doing pretty well, aren't going to do any better come the end of the season and prices will be inflated as well as there being a lack of top class available players. I reckon they will hold tight until the summer and see where they are.
 
fez said:
Not sure they will do much at all. They are doing pretty well, aren't going to do any better come the end of the season and prices will be inflated as well as there being a lack of top class available players. I reckon they will hold tight until the summer and see where they are.
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It all depends on who you're going after. Prices only get inflated when the selling club doesn't want to sell and or there's a big market for a certain player. And although they've got a relatively healthy lead over 5th and below, I don't think they're guarantees for top 4 just yet. Chelsea are still fairly inconsistent and had anybody been able to string a few wins together they'd be in a battle for top 4 right now. Just looking at December's fixtures, I wouldn't bet against Spurs closing the gap on Chelsea before the window opens.
mysticsniper said:
I bet that buyout clause has quadrupled at least
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I'll take that bet. It would make no sense for Rodgers, who I'm sure has his eyes on a bigger club, to lock himself into a contract at Leicester. At best I'd imagine he'd have agreed to a small increase in exchange for more money and more control. If I were a Leicester supporter I'd be worried about him being given more control over things too. He's a fantastic coach but his judgement on players leaves a lot to be desired.
 
BaZ87 said:
I'll take that bet. It would make no sense for Rodgers, who I'm sure has his eyes on a bigger club, to lock himself into a contract at Leicester. At best I'd imagine he'd have agreed to a small increase in exchange for more money and more control. If I were a Leicester supporter I'd be worried about him being given more control over things too. He's a fantastic coach but his judgement on players leaves a lot to be desired.
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Makes perfect sense to me, you can see he is more than happy at Leicester, loved by all. Signing this new contract has ended all speculation about moving on to those other big clubs.

Anyone can make an assumption to what might or might not be in his contract, but Football is a results business. Brendan is doing a fantastic job, his man management is getting the best out of the players, long may it continue.
 
mysticsniper said:
Makes perfect sense to me, you can see he is more than happy at Leicester, loved by all. Signing this new contract has ended all speculation about moving on to those other big clubs.

Anyone can make an assumption to what might or might not be in his contract, but Football is a results business. Brendan is doing a fantastic job, his man management is getting the best out of the players, long may it continue.
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It was just the other week you commented on a post match interview Rodgers gave, questioning his commitment. Rodgers dropped Celtic in a heart beat to take the Leicester job because he saw it as a good move for his career. Without wanting to sound disrespectful, Leicester isn't a destination club and I'm certain that Rodgers would leave the moment he's given a better option. The ball's well and truly in his court right now. His stock's at its highest and he's being linked with moves to bigger clubs. Why would he agree to anything that wouldn't be of benefit to him? I'm sure Leicester would have pushed for an increase in whatever clause was in his old deal but I don't believe it would be significantly more than now.

I agree about it ending speculation though and it makes sense for everybody for him to sign the new deal. He gets a pay rise, Leicester get a bit more security and it puts rumours of him leaving to bed. As long as he keeps doing well with you, he will continue to be linked with any bigger job that becomes available though and as above, he'll push to take any offer he thinks is better for him.
 
mysticsniper said:
loved by all.
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Realistically, means little.

Clubs will ruthlessly fire managers the moment it becomes convenient, and managers are now equally more inclined to take an itinerant approach to their career. The current adulation may be nice but Rodgers will be smart enough to take a top-level opportunity if he gets one: in the same vein as his move from Celtic to Leicester despite being on for the treble-treble. A six year contract is worthless in the modern era, it's a token statement (and a potentially expensive one) to ward off current speculation.
 
Managers are like players now. Its all about money and career progression. When a player signs a new contract a year after their last one its just a mutually beneficial arrangement to ensure the player is happy and the club can add a buyout clause for a huge amount whilst tying them down for another year. It means nothing when a player wants to go or a club wants to sell.

Rogers will have got a nice pay rise from his new Leicester contract and his buyout clause will have gone up a lot. If he wants to go and a club is willing to pay though, he will be gone before 2025.
 
chroniclard said:
Liverpool should go balls deep on Timo Werner.
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I've always argued against spending big on a striker because they're rarely going to play but Werner's the one exception. He wouldn't just be cover for Firmino through the middle but you could also see him slotting in on the left hand side and playing just how Salah plays on the right.

Even though he'll cost far more, I'd rather we went for Sancho though. Unless we're chasing a game late on then we're never going to see Werner on the pitch at the same time as our front 3, he'd only be cover/competition. Sancho would provide us with the cover/competition for the front 3 but you could also play him alongside them in a 4-2-3-1. He'd give us a new attacking dimension and given the way Klopp loves a central midfielder that can run with the ball, I wouldn't even rule out him being able to play in midfield in a 4-3-3 too.
 
BaZ87 said:
I've always argued against spending big on a striker because they're rarely going to play but Werner's the one exception. He wouldn't just be cover for Firmino through the middle but you could also see him slotting in on the left hand side and playing just how Salah plays on the right.

Even though he'll cost far more, I'd rather we went for Sancho though. Unless we're chasing a game late on then we're never going to see Werner on the pitch at the same time as our front 3, he'd only be cover/competition. Sancho would provide us with the cover/competition for the front 3 but you could also play him alongside them in a 4-2-3-1. He'd give us a new attacking dimension and given the way Klopp loves a central midfielder that can run with the ball, I wouldn't even rule out him being able to play in midfield in a 4-3-3 too.
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Much as I love Firmino I dont think he scores enough and he has more 6-7/10 games than 8-9/10 ones. I think he could also possibly drop into midfield and Werner could lead the attack. Imo Werner could end up starting more than Bobby.

Dont think it would happen though, he is hot property and gonna be expensive.
 
chroniclard said:
Much as I love Firmino I dont think he scores enough and he has more 6-7/10 games than 8-9/10 ones. I think he could also possibly drop into midfield and Werner could lead the attack. Imo Werner could end up starting more than Bobby.

Dont think it would happen though, he is hot property and gonna be expensive.
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If Firmino scored more you'd have two players in Salah and Mane who would be a lot less effective.
 
chroniclard said:
Much as I love Firmino I dont think he scores enough and he has more 6-7/10 games than 8-9/10 ones. I think he could also possibly drop into midfield and Werner could lead the attack. Imo Werner could end up starting more than Bobby.

Dont think it would happen though, he is hot property and gonna be expensive.
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As Andy says, Firmino is absolutely key to how we play and why Mane and Salah score ****loads. He's the man that creates the space and links-up with Salah and Mane. A Werner type striker would be making the same runs as they do - in fact, I'd probably go as far as to say that if Firmino was out then we'd be more likely to play Werner on the left and move Mane into the middle than a straight swap for Firmino.

Re being expensive, do you mean Werner or Sancho? If you mean Werner then reportedly he's got a 30m euro buyout clause. His contract was up this coming summer but when Bayern didn't move for him in the summer he signed a new deal. I really do like Werner and he'd be a great addition to the squad and the price makes it so tempting but Sancho really would add a new dimension to the side.
 
BaZ87 said:
As Andy says, Firmino is absolutely key to how we play and why Mane and Salah score ****loads. He's the man that creates the space and links-up with Salah and Mane. A Werner type striker would be making the same runs as they do - in fact, I'd probably go as far as to say that if Firmino was out then we'd be more likely to play Werner on the right and move Mane into the middle than a straight swap for Firmino.

Re being expensive, do you mean Werner or Sancho? If you mean Werner then reportedly he's got a 30m euro buyout clause. His contract was up this coming summer but when Bayern didn't move for him in the summer he signed a new deal. I really do like Werner and he'd be a great addition to the squad and the price makes it so tempting but Sancho really would add a new dimension to the side.
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Not sure sancho offers anything salah doesn't. Also ridiculously expensive.
 
chroniclard said:
Not sure sancho offers anything salah doesn't. Also ridiculously expensive.
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Expensive no doubt but he's very different to Salah. Salah's an out and out forward - he might start wide but he's more of a striker than Firmino in terms of the runs he makes and where he ends up. Although they play it slightly differently, Sancho is more like Mane in terms of the positions he takes up. Salah is very direct, always looking to run in behind and get in the box, where as Sancho (like Mane) is more willing and capable of coming infield, linking-up and slipping a pass through to somebody else. Whenever we've played a 4-2-3-1, Salah's always played as the number 9 and then Ox, Shaq or Keita have played wide with Mane on the other side - Sancho would be a natural wide in a 4-2-3-1 and could easily cover both Mane and Salah and indirectly cover Firmino with 1 of the other 2 playing through the middle.

edit: and Klopp also admitted he tried to sign him from City when he moved to Dortmund but City point blank refused to do business with us.
 
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