Japanese Grand Prix 2011, Suzuka Circuit - Race 15/19

Martin Whitmarsh explaining why it was Lewis own fault he never made it, but Skeeter will find a reason to lay no blame on boy wonder :D
 
Hamilton doesn't look happy, hasn't said a word with button, they mentioned Button peeing around at the chicane, did Button maybe back everyone up in the final chicane when frankly he had plenty of space infront of him?

If he did that, did he do it on purpose ;)

Mclaren are a god damned joke as per usual, its always these stupid little things, send him out too late, do they never learn. Absolutely mental to always cut it so close.

Hard to see from that replay, Hamilton seemed to be taking a strange line in that final corner, was one of them already alongside him at that point making it hard to turn in, not sure.

ALl ridiculous, and had they sent him out 30 seconds earlier, or done the first laps in Q3 2 minutes earlier, no issue.
 
Shimmy said:
You're all gonna have to eat your words now.

:p

LH was napping, end of.
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Actually, not really, look how slow Webbers lap was, Webber was FAR to late, and threw himself into the final corner, costing Lewis his lap, but Webber cost himself a good start, had Webber not thrown himself through the final chicane he both wouldn't have cost Lewis, would have missed the lap, but might have had the right start to do a good lap.

Lewis without being overtaking actually had the time spot on, and the two guys who were too late killing themselves to get back did things "abnormally" however that still makes McClown at fault because, that happens, there is no need to be final car over the line, the driver and a good lap is FAR more important than being last car.
 
Do any of you seriously think that if Lewis had been told he had to get a move on or he wouldn't make it in time, he would have coasted up to the final chicane?

Of course he wouldn't. He was unaware of just how close it was. Its the teams job to ensure the driver is aware. The team failed.

And it wasn't like he was miles away, he was a couple of seconds behind Button.

And its not just McLaren. Webber and Schumacher were released waaaaaaay to late too. Button was lucky to get through. Although looking at the banzai lunges into the final turn it would seem that RBR and Merc told their drivers to get a move on.
 
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Skeeter said:
Do any of you seriously think that if Lewis had been told he had to get a move on or he wouldn't make it in time, he would have coasted up to the final chicane?

Of course he wouldn't. He was unaware of just how close it was. Its the teams job to ensure the driver is aware.

And it wasn't like he was miles away, he was a couple of seconds behind Button.
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So Martin Whitmarsh is a liar then? with all team radio monitored then I expect a full inquiry by the Lewis loving BBC, maybe Jake will get down there and demand answers if he can hold in the tears long enough :D

Lewis is always the victim, so unfair, poor Lewis blah blah blah
 
There are reasons why they send them out at the last second, they don't just do it for the chuckles :p

every lap puts more rubber down, if you went out as you suggest I would guess they have a good chance of being undercut by the people who waited.
 
Hamilton should have just held his line into the chicane therefore not allowing either MSC or MW through.

Instead he slowed a lot and took an abnormal line allowing them through.
 
6 cars only setting a time is a poor show, the FIA need to do something about it, why should a team gain a race advantage by not going out in qual.
 
I am so fed up of the attitude on here. Just because I don't want to try to look clever in front of my internet friends by subscribing to the 'it's cool to blame LH for everything' lynch mob, somehow I'm the idiot?

LH had nowhere to go, JB was right in front of him. And he was put in that position by the team. Simple as.

But hey, I'll just shut up now and conceed that I don't fit in with all the cool kids.
 
Skeeter said:
I am so fed up of the attitude on here. Just because I don't want to try to look clever in front of my internet friends by subscribing to the 'it's cool to blame LH for everything' lynch mob, somehow I'm the idiot?

LH had nowhere to go, JB was right in front of him. And he was put in that position by the team. Simple as.

But hey, I'll just shut up now and conceed that I don't fit in with all the cool kids.
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Well said.
 
I'm very pro Hamilton infact I even said earlier today that the BBC should have put the blame on Maldonado for the Monaco race, but they ignored it.

Lewis missing a 2nd hot lap was his own fault.
 
Skeeter said:
I am so fed up of the attitude on here. Just because I don't want to try to look clever in front of my internet friends by subscribing to the 'it's cool to blame LH for everything' lynch mob, somehow I'm the idiot?

LH had nowhere to go, JB was right in front of him. And he was put in that position by the team. Simple as.

But hey, I'll just shut up now and conceed that I don't fit in with all the cool kids.
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Noticed how I've pretty much stopped posting? ;)

I've noticed that my opinion is a welcome as a turd sandwich.
 
Skeeter said:
I am so fed up of the attitude on here. Just because I don't want to try to look clever in front of my internet friends by subscribing to the 'it's cool to blame LH for everything' lynch mob, somehow I'm the idiot?

LH had nowhere to go, JB was right in front of him. And he was put in that position by the team. Simple as.

But hey, I'll just shut up now and conceed that I don't fit in with all the cool kids.
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So Martin W is a liar then, and Lewis is not part of said "team"?

Crying over this qual is pretty silly it means nothing when the race is going to be a tyre lottery, I am sure Lewis will take full blame in his interviews then you can feel better about it all :)
 
deuse said:
Did you not see Button backing him up?
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Not really, I saw LH messing with his settings, he wasn't that close to JB at that point, with still a fair way to go.

He then got caught napping at the chicane, then had to drop off more to get space from webber/schumi and missed it.

Honestly can't see that as anything but his fault.
 
deuse said:
Did you not see Button backing him up?
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Button wasn't backing him up, was just optimising the start of his hot lap.

Even if he was backing Hamilton up Lewis slowed up FAR too much, he coasted all the way to the chicane fiddling with the steering wheel and then went off the racing line compounding his problem as it allowed Webber past and nearly Schumacher too.

Hamilton looked pretty sheepish in the press conference and Whitmarsh certainly made no excuses for him, quite the contrary.
 
I think Skeeter is taking on the role of drama-queen tonight. Easy tiger...no one has died and Hamilton not on pole isn't a big deal.

Looking at that video, it looks like both McLaren and Hamilton are to blame for that. What was Hamilton doing sitting the garage, waiting for?

He could've left his garage 30 seconds earlier, but chose not to. Was there are reason for this?

Both Hamilton and his team have to take the blame for this.

MSc knew exactly what was going on and basically did a kamikazee move to push himself over the line in time (but failed). Webber also did a kamikazee move (and was aware of what was happening), but succeeded in getting over the line. Apparently, the only guy who didn't know what was going on was Hamilton.

I know that there are many Hamilton fans here, but sometimes, you have to think to yourself, "Why do these things only happen to Hamilton? Why not Button?"

Everytime Hamilton screws up...is it a coincidence or is it something he could've avoided?
Unfortunately, he came out of the garage late (team's fault), then he slowed down (his fault), when he saw Button ahead.

Any way, this is not a deal breaker. With DRS, overtaking is possible and tomorrow, should be very close as any one of the front running drivers could win. It should be a good, close race.
 
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