Japanese Grand Prix 2013, Suzuka - Race 15/19

Flibster · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:10

Well there goes Webber's win. Shock horror.

413x · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:11

good try RG

drunkenmaster · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:12

So fed up with strategies, Webber completely cost his own strategy to get an undercut.... I think Grosjean/Lotus blinked and decided to try and get the undercut on Vettel. Vettel is simply the only car who said to himself, I have a strategy just because other cars want to ruin their strategy on stupid ideas, I don't have to.

Strategy = optimum speed over the race, reacting to other cars not on your strategy = ruining your race. Making decisions to pit based on what you think other cars will do = ruining your race.

Vettel sticking with the optimum strategy is showing how much ridiculously faster that is.

utajoker · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:13

medium on!

hope this makes for a good finish.

drunkenmaster · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:14

al4x said:
good try RG

Not really, he blinked, he thought he'd try and undercut on a car CLEARLY going for a two stopper, he was ahead, had track position and wasn't massively slow and in doing so put himself into doing 50% longer stint on these tyres which has cost him probably both positions. if he actually stopped when Webber did, or waited another 5 laps he'd be way better off than he is now.

Concrete · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:14

Depends if a good finish for you is Vettel walking it.

utajoker · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:15

webber 8 seconds to make up.

Flibster · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:16

I can understand Perez's tyre going with that contact, still failing far too easily.

drunkenmaster · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:16

Vettel slowed down as soon as he had a 2 second gap, well slowed a lot, he's got plenty of tyre life left. If Webber can get close Vettel can speed up, he can easily go 1-1.5 faster than Grosjean and isn't doing so, the only question is are they gifting Webber a win, will they let him go past Vettel?

utajoker · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:16

if webber clears grosjean instantly he will catch vettel.

Flibster · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:18

Vettel whining on the radio already. Keep him away from me.

Yeah... O.K.

drunkenmaster · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:19

TO be fair I did think he was talking about Perez in front of him as he pitted and was on new tyres at the end of the race... shades of being held up by Button, and Perez basically jumped out the way completely.

Spuj · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:20

This is playing perfectly into Vettels hands!

wesley · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:21

vet gonna win, a very sly strategy by red bull!!!

utajoker · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:21

race decided.

Stryda09 · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:21

Flibster said:
Vettel whining on the radio already. Keep him away from me.

Yeah... O.K.

I don't think that is what he said?

deuse · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:22

utajoker said:
race decided.

Flibster · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:22

And just to show the quality of the Marussia car, or perhaps Chilton...

Pic started the race behind him, had to do a drive through immediately, they've done the same amount of actual tyre stops.

Pic is now ahead of him and pulling away.

Duke · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:23

DRS not open on Marks car?

Concrete · 13 Oct 2013 at 08:25

Basically shows MWs true ability level when he can't get past a Lotus in an Red Bull with fresh tyres . . best result would be they crash into each other and Alonso picks up extra points.