Japanese Grand Prix 2014, Suzuka - Race 15/19

wesley · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:25

how fast do you think he hit the loader?

i think about 80 to 90mph

Zaphan58 · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:26

OldCoals said:
Just seen the video of the crash.

Same here. I am amazed the poor guy is alive at all

Danthus · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:26

No idea, it would be a complete guess, if pushed I would say faster than the pit lane limiter.

The impact is at the front, not the back of the car.

Yaayuh! · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:27

OldCoals said:
Just seen the video of the crash.

Me too. It's doing its rounds now. It's horrible.

I feel as though this horrible accident was a case of confusing flags (green and double yellows can be seen in the video), bad decision on lack of safety car IMO (either that or the tractor shouldn't have been there!) and Bianchi just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I hope this doesn't open up some more/new "nanny" regs. But just tighten up procedures for the same circumstances.

Skeeter · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:29

The on screen graphics from the FOM world feed even put Bianchis name up on screen when the medical car was arriving.

Danthus · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:33

Gut reaction was he moved his head as others have said.

Housey · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:33

Mr Men said:
The commentary teams are just looking at the same TV pictures we look at, since we never seen anything of the accident then it's not hard to see why they missed it.

It was obvious to see something else had gone on.

Danthus · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:39

Not at first I don't think.

Nexus · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:47

Having just seen the crash, it does seem to meet my suspicion that the TV cameras likely caught it, but the Director didn't show a replay because of just how brutal it was. It really wasn't obvious that anything else had happened initially and its probably that Sky spotted the lack of Bianchi's timing just before the graphic came up.

It really is a horrible crash, I hope he pulls through it.

ZG002 · 6 Oct 2014 at 22:52

It's likely the director saw it happen and thought, that's fatal. We can't show that!

DJMK4 · 6 Oct 2014 at 23:20

That was a hard impact, does not look good

Danthus · 6 Oct 2014 at 23:27

The more I watch it, does he move his head or is it just the impact that makes it look that way?

JRS · 6 Oct 2014 at 23:45

justbeats said:
Apparently sky (among others) didn't miss it, everyone in the pit lane were sombre you could see that, and yet the BBC were saying nothing about it, until DC finally noticed...

Hardly surprising, the BBC TV coverage is utterly dire now and has been for a while. They really ought to just admit defeat, wriggle out of whatever is left of their contract and spend the money on more pointless **** like Strictly Come Prancing or whatever.

Overlag · 6 Oct 2014 at 23:46

m4rk84 said:
Are you kidding? It was the worst type of weather... it was at that terrible point where it isn't clear whether to be on inters or full wets and indeed some drivers were on wets and some on inters. It's in these conditions drivers can be caught out most because it's difficult to know what to expect from the tyres.

thanks, you've proved my point... Cars were on INTERS, NOT full wets, so it cant have been that bad.

CaNsA · 7 Oct 2014 at 00:31

Glaucus said:
Go back to GD it wasn't funny to begin with and still isn't a page later.
Whoopi do da, a typo.

Huh?

I was asking Millwall.FC to chill out, I'm not the one who is banging on about it.

Twirlywoos · 7 Oct 2014 at 01:02

Looking at the video you can see double waved yellows during Sutil's crash, but whilst the recovery truck was moving the vehicle they changed to green. Is that normal?

Varsh · 7 Oct 2014 at 01:42

I've just seen the video now too... that was unbelievably brutal and it was lucky that the JCB was not another metre further backwards. I can't believe how high that JCB left the ground!

If he survives this it will be a miracle, and we all hope that he does.

NooBish AbbZ · 7 Oct 2014 at 07:03

Also just seen a video, jesus :O

Skeeter · 7 Oct 2014 at 07:51

majnu said:
Looking at the video you can see double waved yellows during Sutil's crash, but whilst the recovery truck was moving the vehicle they changed to green. Is that normal?

Yes. The flag was changed to green once Sutils car had been carried back beyond that flag post. Bianchi would have left control much further back though, well within the yellow flag zone and likely not even in sight of the green flag, let alone alongside it.

The issue isn't the flag, its the wider issue of drivers not slowing down through yellow flag zones because, frankly, the FIA have done sweet F A about punishing it.

this_is_gav · 7 Oct 2014 at 08:23

OldCoals said:
Not at first I don't think.

I agree. I saw some steam, but that could have been anything. I certainly didn't see the remains of the backend of the car, and I didn't see the piece of the engine cover the marshal moved (David Croft saw it though).

Like I said, I did see the marshals waving frantically, saw Bianchi falling down the timing sheets and saw the camera crews focus in on the Marussia garage so put two and two together.

The commentators don't just look at the pictures we're seeing. They have numerous monitors with information, laptops and loads of sheets of paper plastered all about the commentary box with facts about all sorts and a window they're looking out of.