Japanese Grand Prix 2014, Suzuka - Race 15/19

Damn :( Fingers crossed for him but after seeing that I can't believe he'll survive that

The speed he was heading into that zone, regardless of the tractor he was looking at a serious injury!
 
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Shimmy said:
If you look, the marshall directly above in the tower is waving a green flag..

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Yes it's fine, as has been established time and time again. You are supposed to resume racing at the green flag post, not when you see the green flag. There is no danger after the green flag (well, other than rivers and Maldonado and so on).
 
How fast is that corner usually taken? Sutils initial crash looked way more benign in terms of speed, obviously much less damage because of what he hits. But it seemed he scrubbed off way more speed. Any comments on what happened to bianchi, just aquaplane straight off or did he get out of shape on the way in? Horrible accident regardless :(.
 
Will said:
How fast is that corner usually taken? Sutils initial crash looked way more benign in terms of speed, obviously much less damage because of what he hits. But it seemed he scrubbed off way more speed. Any comments on what happened to bianchi, just aquaplane straight off or did he get out of shape on the way in? Horrible accident regardless :(.
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Sutil clearly spun, which is where tarmac excels, whereas by the sounds of it Bianchi overcorrected (like Kobayashi did on Friday) and was just fired off to the scene of the accident.

Similar to turn 3 at Interlagos in 2003 - I think everyone else spun into the wall fairly softly, but Button overcorrected and was flung into the wall at almost undiminished speed.
 
Bianchi was off the road way before he would have been able to see and react to the green flag enough to it have been in any way an influencing factor.

He's gone straight on traveling in a straight line away from the centre of the corner, and hit the tractor before the flag post. That means he hadn't yet got around the corner enough for the flag point to be infront of him, and the corner is blind to. So even if he was able to see the flag it would have been at the point he lost control at most.
 
Has anyone else noticed how he seems to be travelling forwards in a straight line rather than spinning?

I'd have thought that, had he lost control on the corner, the car would be rotating quite a bit but that doesn't seem to be the case. It looks more like he simply speared off the track in a straight line, in which case maybe it was some kind of mechanical failure on the car rather than just the weather conditions?
 
As people have said, looks like a snap and over correction that results in you being fired off in a straight line towards the barrier. Kobayashi did the same earlier in the weekend.
 
So I watched the re-run just after midday on the BBC. Suzie Perry opens the show with the news and says 'we won't show you the footage of the crash but we will show you the race'. Not only did they not have any footage whatsoever, they didn't even know that Bianchi had gone off. Had anyone watched it live on the BBC then nobody would have been none the wiser, they really are bloody useless. It's not bad enough we have to put up with that idiot commentator waffling pretty much crap through the entire race...

Anyway, what a good race, if anyone still wants to doubt that Lewis is head and shoulders above Nico as a racer, well, state your case...

As for Bianchi, what a horrific crash :( Did the tractor slow the car just enough to stop the barrier destroying him? Or would the barrier have flexed enough to 'absorb' the car at such a high speed? Really just brings home that with all the safety aspects of these cars that the drivers are only human and fragile at speed. Really hope he's going to be ok, really nice, very talented driver.
 
There was no live footage either watching live, and commentators took ages to realise as their was no footage and the cars hidden from the few shots of sutils car there was,
 
Indeed I also seem to remember DC saying in the commentary when all the cars came into the pits that he hadnt seen Bianchi - sounding like they missed it initially too.

Hopefully the lad recovers, having seen the bid its amazing he's still with us now tbh
 
The missus just asked to see the video so I've just showed it to her... curiousity and all...

anyhow, she mentioned that he leant his head to the right to avoid full on impact with his head.... I'd earlier today mentioned that the tractor had brushed against his helmet making it tilt to the right.

Not sure now whether he actually tilted his head of his own accord or if that was out of his control...
 
justbeats said:
As for Bianchi, what a horrific crash :( Did the tractor slow the car just enough to stop the barrier destroying him? Or would the barrier have flexed enough to 'absorb' the car at such a high speed?
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From looking at it I'm not entirely sure there is actually a barrier in front of the car. Without the impact on the loader it looks as though his car could have achieved the unthinkable and passed straight through the gap in the barriers and ended up who knows where. I'm sure the barriers are supposed to overlap in a way that makes this impossible but I can't see it. If he was on a trajectory to pass through the gap then it would have been a seriously weird way of leaving the track.
 
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