Poll: Japanese Grand Prix 2016, Suzuka - Race 17/21

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So max has now been told what he can and can not do.

"No action will be taken against Verstappen for what he did in Japan, but it is likely he will have been told explicitly where the FIA draws the line between what is and is not acceptable"

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/verstappen-questioned-by-whiting-over-hamilton-defence-836526/

If true I think that's fair. Lets see what he does at the next race.

That's quite sensible to be fair especially as Hamilton wasn't particularly interested in pursuing it anyway. Maybe this is the line in the sand for his future defences. (I can't see him changing if I'm honest.)
 
I think the problem isn't just the moving under braking but the whole waiting for the car behind to pick a side and moving to it that irks the other drivers. Although in my mind to combat that maybe the driver behind should pick the side they want sooner and then in effect move twice to take it. I.e. want to go to the right, go left first and then go back to the right to overtake. However that may not work at 100+mph and when you take into account racing lines for corners that the driver in front can move back to... :o:D

Just 5kgs? I'd have to lose way more i think. :D

What we need is indicators on the cars. Driver behind indicates where he's going and the driver ahead moves the other way to "defend". :D
 
Yet another master class performance from Nico. He is really in the zone and does just what he needs to do to win without leaning on the power unit too much. Max is very deserving of driver of the day, I thought his ability to keep triple world champion Lewis in a much better car behind him speaks volumes for Max. Lewis messed the start up but was able to use his cars performance advantage to repair some of the damage. I thought the behaviour from Lewis over the weekend in relation to the press was very strange indeed. Maybe his social media platform will provide the media with press packs which means he doesn't need to do interviews. Another constructers championship for Mercedes. With new regs and new era of f1 coming next year could this be that perfect timing window for key personnel within the Mercedes team to jump ship and maybe go to the likes of McLaren or Renault or even Ferrari?
 
So I make that 4 grid penalties/issues for Hamilton, 1 for Rosberg. 2 DNF for Hamilton and 1 for Rosberg.

What a shame for Hamilton, I think Nico has done a great job, but have no doubts that they'd either be equal or Hamilton in the lead right now if it wasn't for the grid penalties.

Now just imagine if he didn't keep getting bad starts!

Nico has been impressive this year, but I just can't warm to him.
 
So max has now been told what he can and can not do.

"No action will be taken against Verstappen for what he did in Japan, but it is likely he will have been told explicitly where the FIA draws the line between what is and is not acceptable"

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/verstappen-questioned-by-whiting-over-hamilton-defence-836526/

If true I think that's fair. Lets see what he does at the next race.

They should put it in the rules if there is a clear line between what is acceptable and what isn't. I think he may be a little different but can't imagine he'll change his style until he really has to.
 
So I make that 4 grid penalties/issues for Hamilton, 1 for Rosberg. 2 DNF for Hamilton and 1 for Rosberg.

What a shame for Hamilton, I think Nico has done a great job, but have no doubts that they'd either be equal or Hamilton in the lead right now if it wasn't for the grid penalties.

Now just imagine if he didn't keep getting bad starts!

Nico has been impressive this year, but I just can't warm to him.

I know what you mean. The hat throwing last year is what did it for me in the end.
 
But every driver "moves under braking" otherwise you never make some corners.

There's a difference between predictably taking a line to make the corner and/or trail braking and a sudden move during heavy braking before the corner.



Article 27.7 of the Sporting Regulations:

Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. Whilst defending in this way the driver may not leave the track without justifiable reason.

For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a ‘significant portion’.

Specifically note the explicit use of "before any braking zone" in the first sentence.
 
And considering it was right hand corner and he was getting close to it, it was predictable that he was going to go right at any moment.

And you note that the car behind has to have any part of the front wing alongside the rear wheel of the car in front. ;)
 
There's a difference between predictably taking a line to make the corner and/or trail braking and a sudden move during heavy braking before the corner.



Article 27.7 of the Sporting Regulations:



Specifically note the explicit use of "before any braking zone" in the first sentence.

That's the thing i read somewhere that its more of a gentleman's agreement with the whole braking zone thing. But i guess that's only one step away from becoming a rule if other drivers start doing the same or there's an accident...
 
I can't concede that Rosberg is deserving in this WDC. It seems all the races he's got away from pole on, or where he's benefited from one of Hamilton's poor starts, he's gone on to win, whilst in nearly every other instance something questionable or outright controversial has happened.

For example his poor start/wrong engine mode in Spain which he defended so aggressively against Hamilton in a crippled car, that it resulted in them both crashing out.

Or his last lap kamikaze move on Hamilton in Austria and subsequent blocking of him reentering the track. Fortunately the move didn't work out for him but he still lucked out with his 10-second time penalty which meant he kept his position.

Then there was Malaysia when he used Raikkonen's car to make a corner he might not otherwise of made after a crazy lunge. He got another 10-second penalty, which again didn't affect his position.

Oh, and the time at Silverstone the team broke radio rules to help him with an engine problem (something they refused Hamilton earlier in Baku), and thus potentially avoiding a DNF.

There's probably more..
 
Despite not liking him I've conceded that deserving or not its Rosbergs for the taking now. I'm a Hamilton Racer fan(Not so much Hamilton the guy.. :o) but it all went to pot with the engine failure. That is literally the point where the championship was lost.

The record books also don't care whether this or that happened. It just has the name and the points total next to it that was higher than anyone else's. Lets be honest Hamilton has had his own awesome luck before (Last lap of the last race that won him his first title anyone?!) he's just not had it this year. He hasn't looked the same since last year in my opinion. Its almost like he matched Senna like he always wanted to and has switched off?! Maybe the social life is affecting the work life? Who knows.
 
Despite not liking him I've conceded that deserving or not its Rosbergs for the taking now. I'm a Hamilton Racer fan(Not so much Hamilton the guy.. :o) but it all went to pot with the engine failure. That is literally the point where the championship was lost.

The record books also don't care whether this or that happened. It just has the name and the points total next to it that was higher than anyone else's. Lets be honest Hamilton has had his own awesome luck before (Last lap of the last race that won him his first title anyone?!) he's just not had it this year. He hasn't looked the same since last year in my opinion. Its almost like he matched Senna like he always wanted to and has switched off?! Maybe the social life is affecting the work life? Who knows.

Heard an interesting thing yesterday. On SkyF1 Martin Brundle was talking about Rosberg and luck. He said since the hybrid era has came into F1, Rosberg has had more issues than Hamilton. Apparently it was an article on the Sky F1 web site looking at whole luck thing.
 
Heard an interesting thing yesterday. On SkyF1 Martin Brundle was talking about Rosberg and luck. He said since the hybrid era has came into F1, Rosberg has had more issues than Hamilton. Apparently it was an article on the Sky F1 web site looking at whole luck thing.

That's a load of fud. Even last year Hamilton had more bad luck then roseberg
 
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