JEDEC Confirms CAMM2 Memory For Desktop PCs: DDR6 Up To 17.6 Gbps & LPDDR6 Up To 14.4 Gbps

[AthlonXP1800]

JEDEC Confirms CAMM2 Memory For Desktop PCs: DDR6 Up To 17.6 Gbps & LPDDR6 Up To 14.4 Gbps

DDR6 & LPDDR6 memory will feature super-fast speeds of up to 17.6 Gbps while the CAMM2 DRAM standard is headed to desktops.

wccftech.com

Desktop motherboards with DDR6 in 2026 or 2027 will use new memory standard CAMM2, mean DDR5 will be the memory stick to see the end of DIMM memory standard.

 

[Jay85]

Wonder how it's going fit onto future desktop boards, probably a breakout board of some sort? The standard DIMM slots don't take up much room.

 

[JollyJamma]

JEDEC Confirms CAMM2 Memory For Desktop PCs: DDR6 Up To 17.6 Gbps & LPDDR6 Up To 14.4 Gbps

DDR6 & LPDDR6 memory will feature super-fast speeds of up to 17.6 Gbps while the CAMM2 DRAM standard is headed to desktops.

wccftech.com

Desktop motherboards with DDR6 in 2026 or 2027 will use new memory standard CAMM2, mean DDR5 will be the memory stick to see the end of DIMM memory standard.

That’s really cool.

CAMM2 has been a really good innovation

 

[AthlonXP1800]

Wonder how hit is going fit onto future desktop boards, probably a breakout board of some sort? The standard DIMM slots don't take up much room.

I thought about that, maybe CAMM2 will fit on the back of motherboard on former DIMM site.

 

[Jay85]

I thought about that, maybe CAMM2 will fit on the back of motherboard on former DIMM site.

Gonna make changing ram or diagnosing a ball ache if that's the case, board out every time unless there's a service area at the back of the case/chassis.

 

[theforce]

It offers some benefits when it comes to latency and power consumption. A better latching/securing mechanism than the current one would also be a plus.

 

[Dicehunter]

It offers some benefits when it comes to latency and power consumption. A better latching/securing mechanism than the current one would also be a plus.

The current mechanism which has been in use for 20+ years is sketchy as hell, Every time I install a ram stick it feels like I'm going to snap it sideways or in half with the amount of pressure you need to get it in.

 

[Armageus]

JEDEC Confirms CAMM2 Memory For Desktop PCs: DDR6 Up To 17.6 Gbps & LPDDR6 Up To 14.4 Gbps

DDR6 & LPDDR6 memory will feature super-fast speeds of up to 17.6 Gbps while the CAMM2 DRAM standard is headed to desktops.

wccftech.com

Desktop motherboards with DDR6 in 2026 or 2027 will use new memory standard CAMM2, mean DDR5 will be the memory stick to see the end of DIMM memory standard.

Usual wccftech clickbait. Nothing in that "article" actually states that JEDEC have confirmed CAMM2 for Desktop PCs.

Wonder how it's going fit onto future desktop boards, probably a breakout board of some sort? The standard DIMM slots don't take up much room.

Exactly - while CAMM2 may take less height (important for laptops and tiny form factor office machines), it takes a lot of surface area on a desktop motherboard.

I can't see it making inroads in Desktops, much less Servers (where you typical have 24x DIMM slots)




Edit:
Also seems they've somewhat shot themselves in the foot - there are 3 different possible versions of CAMM2, so as standards go seems like a rubbish idea if you actually want manufacturer uptake

 

[Dicehunter]

Desktop motherboards with DDR6 in 2026 or 2027 will use new memory standard CAMM2, mean DDR5 will be the memory stick to see the end of DIMM memory standard.

I'd be amazed if we got DDR6 in 2026 considering JEDEC are due to ratify their updated DDR5 standard in Q2 next year. I can see 2028 but 2026 seems way too early.

 

[Jay85]

Looks like MSI will be showcasing their Project Zero board at computex with the new CAMM2 memory "slot" if you can call it that. Looks okay on a board with all the connectors on the rear but still can't see this happening on a regular board. Imagine how it would work on a Matx or even itx board.

Next Crop of MSI Project Zero Motherboards to Implement CAMM2 DDR5 Memory

The CAMM2 and LPCAMM2 form-factors were originally designed for thin-and-light notebooks, to provide them with memory replacements/upgrades without compromising on the Z-Height tolerances of the device's design. It looks like MSI sees a future for the CAMM2 form-factor on desktops, specifically...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[AthlonXP1800]

Looks like MSI will be showcasing their Project Zero board at computex with the new CAMM2 memory "slot" if you can call it that. Looks okay on a board with all the connectors on the rear but still can't see this happening on a regular board. Imagine how it would work on a Matx or even itx board.

Next Crop of MSI Project Zero Motherboards to Implement CAMM2 DDR5 Memory

The CAMM2 and LPCAMM2 form-factors were originally designed for thin-and-light notebooks, to provide them with memory replacements/upgrades without compromising on the Z-Height tolerances of the device's design. It looks like MSI sees a future for the CAMM2 form-factor on desktops, specifically...

www.techpowerup.com

I looked at CAMM2 desktop prototype and compared to DIMM, noticed CAMM2 length is about 40% smaller than DIMM slot length and CAMM2 wide is the same size as 3 DIMM slots, smaller than 4 DIMM slots size. CAMM2 on riser card or slim CAMM2 could work fine on MATX and ITX board.

 

[Jay85]

I looked at CAMM2 desktop prototype and compared to DIMM, noticed CAMM2 length is about 40% smaller than DIMM slot length and CAMM2 wide is the same size as 3 DIMM slots, smaller than 4 DIMM slots size. CAMM2 on riser card or slim CAMM2 could work fine on MATX and ITX board.

Good to know, glad you've confirmed it. That makes me rather excited for what we can expect for ITX market now!

Next concern is going to be cost... with any new tech it's going to be stupidly expensive for early adopters as usual.

 

[ATIorNvidia]

Hope it doesn't mean even bigger price discrepancy between ITX and MATX/ATX

 

[Grim5]

Wonder how it's going fit onto future desktop boards, probably a breakout board of some sort? The standard DIMM slots don't take up much room.

MSI showed a prototype of a ATX board equipped with the CAMM2 standard

It looks like the memory slots horizontally into the board , similar to how you install a Nvme drive and then you tighten it down with 4 screws

Depending on how the memory is cooled you can probably make a board where the memory is at the back and out of site

 

[AthlonXP1800]

I'd be amazed if we got DDR6 in 2026 considering JEDEC are due to ratify their updated DDR5 standard in Q2 next year. I can see 2028 but 2026 seems way too early.

No 2028 is very long time away.

Interesting, Nvidia plan to launch next gen Blackhawk ARM AI SoC CPU with Blackwell GPU and LPDDR6 memory at end of 2024.

NVIDIA 2025 AI PC processor rumors: ARM Cortex X5 cores, Blackwell GPU and LPDDR6 memory - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA’s new generation processor combines ARM’s BlackHawk core and Blackwell GPU. NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang presents CUDA-X AI Computer, Source: NVIDIA ARM is rumored to launch a new high-performance core for next-gen flagship smartphones by the end of this year. Revealed as Blackhawk, the...

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I googled LPDDR6 found JEDEC will publish LPDDR6 final spec in Q3 2024.

LPDDR6 Memory To Power Next-Gen Devices: JEDEC To Finalize Standard By Q3 2024

JEDEC is expected to finalize the specifications of the next-gen LPDDR6 memory by the third quarter of 2024.

wccftech.com

It seemed both LPDDR6 and DDR6 was completed development that already met JEDEC planned final spec many months before launch date.

LPDDR6 will launch in 2025 and DDR6 should launch in 2026, it all make sense.

 

[Grim5]

TeamGroup releases image of their DDR5 CAMM2 memory module

This module is 7500mhz/CL28 with 64gb capacity

The black bit on top is described as a "ultra thin graphene heatsink"

 

[Jay85]

TeamGroup releases image of their DDR5 CAMM2 memory module

This module is 7500mhz/CL28 with 64gb capacity

The black bit on top is described as a "ultra thin graphene heatsink"

Aside from the green pcb, these look epic!

Wonder what temps will be like?

 

[Jamin280672]

TeamGroup releases image of their DDR5 CAMM2 memory module

This module is 7500mhz/CL28 with 64gb capacity

The black bit on top is described as a "ultra thin graphene heatsink"

In the write up from TeamGroup about this actual module, they did state that this is for laptops only, and they are presenting it at CES 2024 or whatever it is coming up in June.

I'll see if I can find the article. https://tagteam.harvard.edu/hub_feeds/4247/feed_items/11137530
TeamGroup is ready to release its first LPDDR5X CAMM2 memory modules called the T-Create Expert AI, and aimed at AI notebooks.

Team Group Provides Sneak-Peek into its New Products Heading for Computex

Team Group Inc., the world's leading provider of premium storage solutions, returns to COMPUTEX 2024 with the theme "Elevate Gaming, Empower AI." Drawing on years of extensive product development expertise, the global memory leader unveils next-generation, high-specification storage solutions...

www.techpowerup.com

T-CREATE EXPERT Ai CAMM2 Memory Module
As generative AI applications on PCs continue to expand, memory performance is becoming increasingly important. Team Group proudly presents the T-CREATE EXPERT Ai CAMM2 Memory Module, specially designed for future AI laptops. Utilizing LPDDR5X chips and Team Group's patented IC classification and verification technology, it offers impressive specifications: up to 7,500/6,400 MHz high frequencies, 60/51.2 GB/s high bandwidths, low latencies of CL28/CL24, and 32 GB/64 GB large capacities. These specifications are tailored to fully meet the high-speed computing demands of AI applications. Additionally, the module boasts patented ultra-thin graphene heat sinks, ensuring stable statements with low temperatures during intensive AI computations and similar tasks. The T-CREATE EXPERT Ai CAMM2 Memory Module provides users with an optimal experience, showcasing next-generation specifications and high-performance memory solutions.

This wont be coming to desktops anytime soon, if ever......look at the MSI board picture, it takes up more than 4 slots of space now, people are forgetting about 1 DPC boards (mATX and ITX) theres no room for it.

Other companies are already reporting DDR5 10,000 MT/s normal kits coming for release very soon, KLEVV being one of them, TeamGroup being another.

Klevv and Essencore to Showcase New Products at Computex 2024

Essencore and its consumer-focused brand KLEVV has revealed that it will be heading to Computex 2024 in Taipei next month. Of course, myself, Andy and Brandon will be there too to cover the latest…

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TeamGroup teases DDR5-10000 memory, first Expert CAMM2 modules and PCIe Gen5 SSDs - VideoCardz.com

TEAMGROUP Delimits New Heights at Computex 2024 Elevate Gaming. Empower AI Team Group Inc., the world’s leading provider of premium storage solutions, returns to COMPUTEX 2024 with the theme “Elevate Gaming, Empower AI.” Drawing on years of extensive product development expertise, the global...

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[AthlonXP1800]

This wont be coming to desktops anytime soon, if ever......look at the MSI board picture, it takes up more than 4 slots of space now, people are forgetting about 1 DPC boards (mATX and ITX) theres no room for it.

I now managed to measured ATX connector, it is about 50mm length with 24 pins. So Kingston Fury desktop CAMM2 prototype wide size is about 40mm aligned to ATX connector's 20 pins, CAMM2 length is about 80mm. That is much smaller than DDR5 DIMM slot length 150mm and 4 DIMM slots wide size is about 40mm.

Yep it will absolutely certainly fit in MATX motherboards which all has 4 DIMM slots as standard like Z790M AORUS ELITE AX:

Z790M AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.0) Key Features | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

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Kingston Fury desktop CAMM2 prototype could theoretical fit in ITX motherboard like Z790I AORUS ULTRA if all ATX and SATA3 connectors moved to back of motherboard or use small laptop CAMM2 module or maybe CAMM2 memory riser?

Z790I AORUS ULTRA (rev. 1.0) Key Features | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

www.gigabyte.com

 

[Joxeon]

This wont be coming to desktops anytime soon, if ever......look at the MSI board picture, it takes up more than 4 slots of space now, people are forgetting about 1 DPC boards (mATX and ITX) theres no room for it.

With it sitting flat they could butt it right up to the edge of the CPU socket though, there’s normally an inch of space there that doesn’t have any components.