Soldato
What about Ghislaine I remember a load of the he wasnt killed he was murdered saying she would be done for really quickly as well. I forgot to check exactly when she "committed suicide"
Oh wait, shes still alive!?
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What about Ghislaine I remember a load of the he wasnt killed he was murdered saying she would be done for really quickly as well. I forgot to check exactly when she "committed suicide"
Oh wait, shes still alive!?
Caporegime
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HIS KILLING WAS A MESSAGE TO HER TO KEEP HER MOUTH SHUT, NPC!"!
Or something
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Conspiracies have to be plausible though, if they killed her as well then that would be very hard to cover up. That must be obvious even to you?
Soldato
Lol it wasnt me saying she would be killed it was a load of the people who said his death was 100% suspicious and not him doing it at all.
Ie people posting the very sorts of stuff like you posted above.
It was on these very forums, not sure if it was this thread or she had her own?
May check it out later to see who they were, may be good for a laugh.
I have no idea, but if you credit the people doing this with even average intelligence then they wouldn't also kill Ghislaine Maxwell, because even hard headed people who believe everything they're told would find that hard to believe.
Soldato
If Santa Claus was a right wing conspiracy you'd be in here telling us how he is real and its the leftist culture warriors/globalists trying to disprove his existence.
Soldato
This deserves 3x the Haha like.
Soldato
Maybe, i find those inclined to believe he was offed to be a gullible lot of semi brain dead morons. In their entirity.
I am not sure I want to subset them any more into those who would differentiate her being offed into other categories.
I am sure many would go see " the deep state cabal doing their thing" and no more than that.
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It is a suspicious death though isn't it? The crime scene didn't add up? He strangled himself off a bed post?
Soldato
I don't think so really.
He was rich and knew he was screwed, that life was lost to him, he was at best facing the rest of his life behind bars in solitary, at worst ending up in/closer to general pop and a life of making sure he didn't drop the soap/get caught alone.
If I was him I would be looking to top myself as well. I am sure prison is bad enough when you come from nothing, having lived his life I really think it would be unbearable.
Suicide inside is really not that uncommon.
I tend to follow experts, even though I know amongst some circles they actively think the opposite (ie Brexiteers mainly)
I mean wikipedia says "
The New York City medical examiner and the Justice Department Inspector General ruled that Epstein's death was a suicide by hanging. Epstein's lawyers challenged the medical examiner's conclusion and opened their own investigation, hiring pathologist Michael Baden.
After initially expressing suspicion, Attorney General William Barr described Epstein's death as "a perfect storm of screw-ups"."
I mean if your actively disagreeing with that your actively saying you believe a conspiracy took place. There isn't a grey line in between.
Soldato
Have we actually ever seen an official report on his death?
Prisoners are murdered/attempted murder all the time in US jails. Suicides aren't exactly unheard of either.
I just don't buy the "they won't kill her too or it would be too obvious". If "they" thought she might talk and they killed him to prevent him for talking do you really think she'd still be alive today?
People seem to just want to ignore how incredulous this whole thing is, there's so much ******** around the death it's hard to believe. He hung himself by bedsheets from the lower bunk despite him being a 6 foot man, yet some how has a broken bone in his neck which is consistent with someone being killed by strangulation. There was also just much easier ways for him to kill himself, such as using a wire instead of bedsheets to strangle himself. There was no guard no checks, his cellmate was deliberately removed the night he killed himself, the CCTV of multiple cameras was also malfunctioning and other footage described has been described as "unusable". He killed himself on a night where his own Lawyers described him as being in an upbeat mood. His death also followed an incident where he was found in his cell with neck injuries while being semi-conscious, which at the time a Lawyer for the victims predicted he would be killed in prison. This is a man who has apparent dirt on some of the most powerful people in America, and indeed the World. I dunno guys, I'm gonna say he didn't kill himself on the basis of probability and suck up being called a conspiracy theorist.
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Soldato
You know its not unusual for someone who has made the decision to kill themselves to appear happy/upbeat right?
You know a Physician described the bones in his neck being broken as consistent with someone who has been strangled to death by way of Homicide?
Remember, he supposedly hung himself from a bed that wasn't as tall as he was, there wasn't some massive force, and he used bedsheets.
There was also blood on Epsteins neck, but not blood on the actual bedsheet being used to strangle him. All this has seemingly been dismissed.
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Equally, governments do assassinate people. Quite why the government would kill him, I'm not sure.
I actually don't know enough about it to comment in much detail but I just recall there were a lot of questions around the nature of his death.
It is a bit odd for Roar to say Epstein was murdered by this most powerful cabal in the world because he had dirt on them, but Ghislaine has the same dirt and she's not murdered.....because that would be too obvious and too hard to cover up?
Like if Epstein was murdered, they weren't that bothered to not make it look as suspicious as hell and they can obviously buy off all the relevant authorities to make it go away anyway.....and I'm pretty sure they don't care what CT nuts say on t'internet.
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Soldato
I didn't say he wasn't murdered. I said he wasn't murdered by some cabal protecting the rich and shameless, which is what you were claiming. See the difference?
I want to see the actual report because already in this thread we have "he hung himself from the bunk bed" and "he hung himself from the jail bars".
So you could rip the bed sheets to make them "rope" thick. Tie them to the top bunk, lie on the top bunk and then roll off holding your knees to your chest, that could easily be enough drop/force to break your neck if you get lucky. Though he didn't die of a broken neck according to you but from asphyxiation.
This guy had absolutely nothing to live for though and if I were him I would kill myself.
Seems hanging is the most popular way to kill yourself in jail
Suicide in Local Jails and State and Federal Prisons, 2000–2019 – Statistical Tables
This report includes statistics on demographic, criminal justice, and suicide incident characteristics and link 2019 suicides with facility-level information obtained in BJS’s recent censuses of local jail and prison facilities.
bjs.ojp.gov
- From 2001 to 2019, the number of suicides increased 85% in state prisons, 61% in federal prisons, and 13% in local jails.
- During 2010-19, suffocation, including hanging and self-strangulation, accounted for nearly 90% of suicide deaths in local jails.
- During 2015-19, about 12% of deaths by suicide in local jails occurred within the first 24 hours of incarceration, a decrease from almost 22% during 2000-04.
- The average suicide rate for white inmates in local jails was 93 per 100,000 during the 5-year period of 2015-19, which is 5 times the rate for black inmates (18 per 100,000) and more than 3 times the rate for Hispanic inmates (26 per 100,000).
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Soldato
I don't either. I just don't buy into Roar's conspiracy that he was murdered to protect the people who may of committed crimes with him.
Roar loves a conspiracy. Not long ago he said Russell Brand was only being accused of sex crimes to shut him up as he could help get Trump elected.
You're saying you want to see the actual report, just Google it. Come to your own conclusions and get back to us. Do take into account this is a sex trafficker with Billionaires and Politicians known to have visited places he took sex trafficking victims. You do understand how deep this runs? This isn't some made up conspiracy, he was in prison for sex trafficking and we have concrete evidence of the types of people he was known to spend time with.
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For context Russell Brand was on the front page of the BBC News website for 4 days, this story about Epstein isn't even the top story today. Despite implicating a member of the Royal Family who paid for the silence of his accusers. It's laughable, really.
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