Jeffrey Epstein

SimonRigga said:
I wouldn't believe a word that billionaires mouthpiece said even if I had the library book in front of me to prove what it was saying.. Not that I think the JFK shooting was any sort of conspiracy.. but when has the truth ever got in the way of people believing what they want..

And that was my point.. the truth may well be so banal that it will never be accepted.. and if it is dynamite.. then it will NEVER see the light of day.. and has possibly already been destroyed..
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Okay, did you know Oswald killed a police officer when on the run for the JFK shooting? Did you know Oswald shot at and attempted to kill a far right activist Edwin Walker at his Dallas home with the same riffle that was almost certainly proven to kill JFK? Oswald bragged about this shooting to dinner guests who testified to his claim. Did you know Oswald was photographed with said riffles the day before the assassination? Did you know Oswald asked a colleague 'don't you think it'd be an amazing thing to kill a president', when Eisenhower was still President.

Those loads of stuff I forget too
 
ANDREW GREEN said:
Okay, did you know Oswald killed a police officer when on the run for the JFK shooting? Did you know Oswald shot at and attempted to kill a far right activist Edwin Walker at his Dallas home with the same riffle that was almost certainly proven to kill JFK? Oswald bragged about this shooting to dinner guests who testified to his claim. Did you know Oswald was photographed with said riffles the day before the assassination? Did you know Oswald asked a colleague 'don't you think it'd be an amazing thing to kill a president', when Eisenhower was still President.

Those loads of stuff I forget too
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Erm... did you even read what I wrote?

SimonRigga said:
Not that I think the JFK shooting was any sort of conspiracy..
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Having said that, being photographed with a rifle, that almost certainly did something is no proof.. bragging about doing something is also no proof, ask most 15 year old boys how many women they have slept with ;)

As i've already said, I highly doubt the truth will ever come out in this particular case.. and by truth I mean the full unredacted truth, even if such a thing exists..
 
If your understanding of this whole fiasco is as muddy as mine, this is an excellent breakdown:



It's like every party involved was somehow either guilty, complicit or incompetent and the curtains have not just been pulled back, but ripped off the rails and burned, revealing an absolute dumpster fire of guilty faces and blatant liars, including Pam Bondi and the head of the FBI.

Staggering. Absolutely staggering.
 
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Diddums said:
If your understanding of this whole fiasco is as muddy as mine, this is an excellent breakdown:



It's like every party involved was somehow either guilty, complicit or incompetent and the curtains have not just been pulled back, but ripped off the rails and burned, revealing an absolute dumpster fire of guilty faces and blatant liars, including Pam Bondi and the head of the FBI.

Staggering. Absolutely staggering.
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Which of the administration and congress is implicated?
Yes.
 
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almost convinced there was a big elite circle jerk of nonces being facilitated by Epstein.
but apparently he only trafficked girls for himself.
it's a lot more than guilt by association thats for sure... minimum blind eye for someone with perceived power and networking for personal gains.
aka weinstein situation.


some of the documents they had an idiot redact with a second layer and black stripes.. eye opening for sure....

I thought only victims were supposed to be redacted but we have people facilitating, making payments to girls etc being blacked out.... people with connections to trump and others in power...

minimum trump is protecting his "friends" image



No one is releasing the cards, or the house of cards comes falling down taking both sides with it.
 
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I think the Epstein files reveal there is no real left/right.

There are those with power and those without, those of us without are left to argue left/right issues that are pointless.

We waste our time while those with power control narratives and commit atrocious crimes.

Only Epstein and Maxwell have ever been arrested. This is ridiculous.
 
adidan said:
I think the Epstein files reveal there is no real left/right.

There are those with power and those without, those of us without are left to argue left/right issues that are pointless.

We waste our time while those with power control narratives and commit atrocious crimes.

Only Epstein and Maxwell have ever been arrested. This is ridiculous.
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Has MrAndy’s involvement been investigated by police? There is your answer. Same with the US, Israel, China, Russia and everywhere.. equal complicity is currency and where you’re not you have influence and control to control heads of state..
 
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adidan said:
We waste our time while those with power control narratives and commit atrocious crimes.

Only Epstein and Maxwell have ever been arrested. This is ridiculous.
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This really. We're told pages/named have been redacted to protect the victims but you have to wonder how high this goes.

It's very clear that the Jeffrey Epstein was literally doing this primarily to get leverage and blackmail material on those in powerful positions so he could extort money/demands from them via his 'financier' business. It's obvious from the amount of evidence recovered that was the reason as most rapists don't generally take the time to photograph and document their crimes for the benefit of the authorities!

I feels questions need to be asked about what deals were done between Epstein the powerful/influential individuals who were obviously being blackmailed. It's odd how none of that has ever been discussed or mentioned by the media? The official report at the time stated that "There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions" however I find that very hard to believe.

Given the dirt he clearly had on Prince Andrew you can only speculate how Epstein could have used that information to gain leverage/influence on the British Royals and potentially Goverment/etc via them.
 
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silvagti said:
Given the dirt he clearly had on Prince Andrew you can only speculate how Epstein could have used that information to gain leverage/influence on the British Royals
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Wouldn't really gain any leverage as this sort of thing has been going on with those parasites for centuries - and "officially" known about for longer than any of us have been alive, but for those of you in doubt :

www.craigmurray.org.uk

The Four Mentors of King Charles - Craig Murray

As Godfather to Prince William, heir to the British throne, Prince Charles chose his close friend and adviser Laurens van der Post. A paedophile. Van der Post raped a 14 year old girl who had been given into his care for the sea voyage from South Africa to London. He then installed her in a […]
www.craigmurray.org.uk www.craigmurray.org.uk

Check out the links in the article - they're MSM mainly and historical. There's no real dispute about the facts.

Elizabeth2 seems to have had astonishingly bad luck with her children/relatives/entire family really ;)
 
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adidan said:
I think the Epstein files reveal there is no real left/right.

There are those with power and those without, those of us without are left to argue left/right issues that are pointless.

We waste our time while those with power control narratives and commit atrocious crimes.

Only Epstein and Maxwell have ever been arrested. This is ridiculous.
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Very clichéd but as that meme says 'its not red vs blue, it's billionaires vs you'.
 
Vestas said:
Wouldn't really gain any leverage as this sort of thing has been going on with those parasites for centuries - and "officially" known about for longer than any of us have been alive, but for those of you in doubt :

www.craigmurray.org.uk

The Four Mentors of King Charles - Craig Murray

As Godfather to Prince William, heir to the British throne, Prince Charles chose his close friend and adviser Laurens van der Post. A paedophile. Van der Post raped a 14 year old girl who had been given into his care for the sea voyage from South Africa to London. He then installed her in a […]
www.craigmurray.org.uk www.craigmurray.org.uk

Check out the links in the article - they're MSM mainly and historical. There's no real dispute about the facts.

Elizabeth2 seems to have had astonishingly bad luck with her children/relatives/entire family really ;)
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The open relationship and bang whose ever car keys you you arranged to get for the stately sleep over, or banging the stable help has been a elite privileged tradition of kings and court. That’s consensual and legal but there does seem to be an illegal “behind closed doors”/abuse of position that should be stamped out in my view, even if that means an Epstein files moment and fallout.
 
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NickK said:
The open relationship and bang whose ever car keys you you arranged to get for the stately sleep over, or banging the stable help has been a elite privileged tradition of kings and court. That’s consensual and legal but there does seem to be an illegal “behind closed doors”/abuse of position that should be stamped out in my view, even if that means an Epstein files moment and fallout.
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There will be no fallout, this affects too many high profile people.. all those that think this just implicates Trump are in for a shock if it ever all leaks.. (which I don't think it ever will)..

None of the abusers will ever have an issue.. Other than Epstein.. who I think tried to use his "information" once too often.. and powerful people arranged to have him removed..
 
NickK said:
The open relationship and bang whose ever car keys you you arranged to get for the stately sleep over, or banging the stable help has been a elite privileged tradition of kings and court. That’s consensual and legal but there does seem to be an illegal “behind closed doors”/abuse of position that should be stamped out in my view, even if that means an Epstein files moment and fallout.
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Droit du seigneur is a feudal right and doesn't reallly take any notice of consent or age.

I think some things "trickle down" (not money) and raping little children while the state looks the other way isn't anything new in the UK, I think its been there for a long time if you're in a certain strata of society and maybe that's how some business gets done.

England isn't ready to stop being feudal (leaseholds etc) yet, so assuming Charles dies in 2030, you'll have to wait until either 2080 or 2130 to even have a hope of knowing what he did/didn't do.
 
Vestas said:
Droit du seigneur is a feudal right and doesn't reallly take any notice of consent or age.

I think some things "trickle down" (not money) and raping little children while the state looks the other way isn't anything new in the UK, I think its been there for a long time if you're in a certain strata of society and maybe that's how some business gets done.

England isn't ready to stop being feudal (leaseholds etc) yet, so assuming Charles dies in 2030, you'll have to wait until either 2080 or 2130 to even have a hope of knowing what he did/didn't do.
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That assumes no <insert rightwing politics> but we’re outside of SC.

In other news:

Seems MSN are reporting that the DOJ X account got top trumped in the recent Epstain announcements.. perhaps Bondi is on her last legs if there’s top down adjustments going on?
If so is this the executive branch breaking the justice branch boundary and a direct conflict with the constitutional law?
 
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