Jezza does it again

Nor said:
Insulting Brown for what he does is fine. Insulting him for a disability he has is poor form.
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He didnt insult him for a disability though. Unless you assume that the only reason he called him an idiot was BECAUSE he only had one eye in which case you would be right. He simply used his two mst obvious characteristics to describe him i.e him only having one eye and being an idiot.

Incidentally he is far from being an idiot hes just a spectacularly inept politician.
 
Ceryndrion said:
Aint done anything wrong? You have noticed the near total economic collapse that we are currently flying blindly into, with GB at the helm? but no.. lets blame that on the former PM and his Treasurer.. oh yeah, the treasurer was GB too...

so, he screwed the economy, got made PM by way of the fact that nobody else wanted to captain a sinking ship, and now.. you say he's done nothing wrong? blah..

BLAH I SAY!
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Not another of these tabloid Tories. 99.9% economists etc agree

1. It was the bankers fault.

2. Govt. gets blamed for believing the bankers when they demanded a 'light
touch' on regulation. ( Apart from The Spanish apparently)
3. Ordinary people get some blame for borrowing more than they could afford.

Do you really think for one second it would be any different under Dave and the Tories. Over the past decade that this crisis was brewing most political commentators have said there was no difference between the two major parties.

As for Clakson he is a boor and his cheap shot at a person's disability is typical of this prat. He could have said GB was an idiot but bringing in a person's disability when there was no reason for it.
 
do_ron_ron said:
Not another of these tabloid Tories. 99.9% economists etc agree

1. It was the bankers fault.

2. Govt. gets blamed for believing the bankers when they demanded a 'light
touch' on regulation. ( Apart from The Spanish apparently)
3. Ordinary people get some blame for borrowing more than they could afford.

Do you really think for one second it would be any different under Dave and the Tories. Over the past decade that this crisis was brewing most political commentators have said there was no difference between the two major parties.

As for Clakson he is a boor and his cheap shot at a person's disability is typical of this prat. He could have said GB was an idiot but bringing in a person's disability when there was no reason for it.
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Governments get blamed not for light regulation, but for regulation and interference that actively encouraged the problems (such as altering the acceptance criteria for Fannie and Freddie, laws forcing banks to lend to people, laws encouraging securitisation, government regulation and enforcement of credit ratings etc etc)

If we had true light regulation, or no regulation, all of the above wouldn't have occurred. Sure, the banks jumped through and took advantage of the regulations, but that's because of a little thing called moral hazard, which is a significant disadvantage of any government regulated market.
 
do_ron_ron said:
Not another of these tabloid Tories. 99.9% economists etc agree

1. It was the bankers fault.

2. Govt. gets blamed for believing the bankers when they demanded a 'light
touch' on regulation. ( Apart from The Spanish apparently)
3. Ordinary people get some blame for borrowing more than they could afford.

Do you really think for one second it would be any different under Dave and the Tories. Over the past decade that this crisis was brewing most political commentators have said there was no difference between the two major parties.

As for Clakson he is a boor and his cheap shot at a person's disability is typical of this prat. He could have said GB was an idiot but bringing in a person's disability when there was no reason for it.
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1.) Who sold most of our gold reserves when gold was at it's cheapest value?
2.) Who raided the pension funds?
3.) Who reduced VAT in a desperate attempt to boost consumer spending? "Oh I might be made redundant tomorrow, but it's okay as VAT is not 2.5% less!! Spend spend spend!"

Those are just three of the retarded acts in Brown's time that would never have been commited by any tory government, and we would be in a much healthier position now because of it.

Perhaps governments cannot control wider global financial problems, but they can certainly be prepared to weather them. Brown has demonstrated time and again that all he wants to do is spend any and all money we have in reserve in order to fund labour's political agenda, he sticks 2 fingers up to prudence. So yes, he is in fact an idiot.
 
nero120 said:
1.) Who sold most of our gold reserves when gold was at it's cheapest value?
2.) Who raided the pension funds?
3.) Who reduced VAT in a desperate attempt to boost consumer spending? "Oh I might be made redundant tomorrow, but it's okay as VAT is not 2.5% less!! Spend spend spend!"

Those are just three of the retarded acts in Brown's time that would never have been commited by any tory government, and we would be in a much healthier position now because of it.

Perhaps governments cannot control wider global financial problems, but they can certainly be prepared to weather them. Brown has demonstrated time and again that all he wants to do is spend any and all money we have in reserve in order to fund labour's political agenda, he sticks 2 fingers up to prudence. So yes, he is in fact an idiot.
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Not forgetting Brown running deficit spending equivilent to the Tories in the last recession throughout the longest period of sustained growth in the 20th century, meaning that now we actually need to borrow and stimulate, we can't afford it without saddling generations with massive debt. It's the 1970's all over again, we've even got the strikes now as well as the economic disaster.
 
Clarkson Factually Correct (Maaaaaaaash)

CLARKSON FACTUALLY CORRECT

JEREMY Clarkson was factually correct, it was claimed last night.

As the Top Gear presenter faced a storm of protest after describing prime minister Gordon Brown as 'a one-eyed Scottish idiot', experts stressed the constituent parts of the statement could all be verified.

Julian Cook, professor of semantics at Reading University, said: "Think of it this way. What if Jeremy Clarkson had divided the information into three separate sentences?

"For instance; 'Gordon Brown has one eye'. Yes he does. No-one is denying that. Secondly, 'Gordon Brown is Scottish'. Yes he is, so are lots of other people and that is reasonably normal.

"And finally 'Gordon Brown is an idiot'. Well yes, of course he is. If you didn't think that then clearly you're some kind of idiot. And possibly Scottish. With one eye."

Professor Cook added: "It's all about language, it's all about context.

"Put it this way, if he had called Gordon Brown a 'Jocko moron whose eyes are all wonky', or maybe 'Long John Silver, the kilted ***wit', or perhaps even 'Winky Mc****nut, the alcoholic sheep-shagger' then yes, I could see how some people might find that offensive.

"Or if he had put on an eye patch and sat there shouting 'jings! crivens! am such a wee eejit!'.

"Or if he had wandered around the stage with one eye shut, bumping into things while sticking his tongue inside his bottom lip and banging the backs of his hands together while screaming 'och aye the noo, I'm Gordon the spazzy', then yes, that is perhaps going a bit too far."

Professor Cook said Clarkson's sentence was not only accurate but possessed a 'beautiful simplicity', adding: "Or what about this one? He puts on an eye patch, a kilt and a tam o'shanter and performs simulated intercourse at the wrong end of an inflatable sheep and then falls off the stage. Yeah, I'd liked to have seen that."

B@

HAPPY?
 
Mr Gray said:
"Most people here are proud that the prime minister is a Scot and believe him to be the right person to get the UK through this global economic crisis."
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Deluded. How can this man be the right person when he couldn't even see the recession coming?

I agree with Jeremy Clarkson. It's great how he isn't afraid of telling the truth, and not worrying about what the PC nutcases think. Need more people like him :)
 
clarckson annoys me with a lot of his opinions but you gotta love the way he just doesnt really give a crap and will always speak his mind
 
Stretch said:
Truth hurt much?

Just make the man MP and be done with it. At leased then we can go down in a blaze of controversy, hilarity and hysteria. I kind of like the idea of Top Gear meets numbers 10 and 11.
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That really is a load of *******. Most people dont really care. I also hate the whole scotland vs england crap the ****** newspapers seem to create. Like we really give a ****.


Do not swear. FF.
 
Dolph said:
Governments get blamed not for light regulation, but for regulation and interference that actively encouraged the problems (such as altering the acceptance criteria for Fannie and Freddie, laws forcing banks to lend to people, laws encouraging securitisation, government regulation and enforcement of credit ratings etc etc)

If we had true light regulation, or no regulation, all of the above wouldn't have occurred. Sure, the banks jumped through and took advantage of the regulations, but that's because of a little thing called moral hazard, which is a significant disadvantage of any government regulated market.
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Somehow I doubt Govt could force a private bank to lend to people. Their shareholders own the bank and not Govt so they have to act in such a way that protects the shareholders assets. In the post I was replying to the accusation was that it was all GB's fault which is tosh. Banks(even in the US) lobbied for 'light regulation' as they had eliminated most of the risk. This did not happen overnight but in the US they had Bush and the Republicans in power.

The TV prog series the 'Ascent of Money' was excellent in explaining the current situation.

We have all seen the effects of banks when they get light regulation. This was merely the latest in a line.
 
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