Jimmy Savile - Sexual Predator

I wonder how far this investigation will go? I reckon there are quite a few members of groups from the 60s holding their breath right about now. If Cliff Richard got busy with any underage groupies back in the late 50s, will he be carted off for questioning..
 
I wonder how far this investigation will go? I reckon there are quite a few members of groups from the 60s holding their breath right about now. If Cliff Richard got busy with any underage groupies back in the late 50s, will he be carted off for questioning..

Now that would not surprise me, Cliff Richard is the creepiest.
 
I wonder how far this investigation will go? I reckon there are quite a few members of groups from the 60s holding their breath right about now. If Cliff Richard got busy with any underage groupies back in the late 50s, will he be carted off for questioning..

about time really - lots of things were acceptable in the past that aren't now but child abuse has always been illegal and those that turned a blind eye in the past are in big big trouble :p
 
Don't quite understand why the police have announced they will be arresting people before the act, gives the suspects time to destroy evidence and abscond. Maybe that's the plan? Who knows.
 
Don't quite understand why the police have announced they will be arresting people before the act, gives the suspects time to destroy evidence and abscond. Maybe that's the plan? Who knows.

Destroy what evidence? In your head is their an ageing 80s TV star out there thinking "Damn they're investigating, I better chuck out that condom I used on a 14 year old girl in 1983 I'd been keeping all these years".

Flippancy aside, they didn't need to announce it anyone with half a brain could work out the police would be looking into it given all the media it's got over the past few weeks.
 
I just think the whole investigation is pointless.

He is dead. He cannot be punished.

but those who covered it up can, those who were complicit in the acts can and more importantly lessons can be learned to stop it happening again.

if you think investigations and the legal system are simply about punishment you're a fool.
 
Surely it isn't about the number of allegations but the credibility of them? If he was alive then even one credible allegation should have been investigated.

Yes, I agree that this should be investigated. However, this has been far more than that and he's been made out to be a paedophile before anything has been proved.

In that scenario 300 of them would be telling the truth.


I've got faith that the police have been able to prove the validity of some of the allegations already, I would be a lot more sceptical if it was just trial by media

The police aren't there to prove validity. There hasn't been a trial, so this is the exact definition of trial by media. :confused:.
 
Yes, I agree that this should be investigated. However, this has been far more than that and he's been made out to be a paedophile before anything has been proved.

Considering the number of relatively credible allegations I am not really sure how else this could have played out? What would you like to have seen done differently?
 
There was a guy on the radio the other day that said the only proof that would convince him would be a videotape of Savile actually abusing someone. Ahleckz seems to be in that strange camp it seems.
 
Considering the number of relatively credible allegations I am not really sure how else this could have played out? What would you like to have seen done differently?

I wouldn't have policeman standing outside Scotland Yard stating that he's a paedophile. It isn't for the police to be judge, jury and executioner.

I don't understand why we can't have an inquiry into this to attempt to discover what happened and then release the findings rather than have a trial by jury.

There was a guy on the radio the other day that said the only proof that would convince him would be a videotape of Savile actually abusing someone. Ahleckz seems to be in that strange camp it seems.

Sigh. I haven't said anything of the sort. I'm just against this new notion that the police are able to conclude the guilt of someone. I refer back to my original question, how many people does it take to make something true?
I don't actually have an opinion on him and what he's done, my concern is the way the investigation has been carried out and how the way that people have acted throughout it.
 
Sigh. I haven't said anything of the sort. I'm just against this new notion that the police are able to conclude the guilt of someone. I refer back to my original question, how many people does it take to make something true?
I don't actually have an opinion on him and what he's done, my concern is the way the investigation has been carried out and how the way that people have acted throughout it.
Fair point.
 
I wouldn't have policeman standing outside Scotland Yard stating that he's a paedophile. It isn't for the police to be judge, jury and executioner.

I don't understand why we can't have an inquiry into this to attempt to discover what happened and then release the findings rather than have a trial by jury.

It was going to be different because the accused is dead. He has no rights per se so the police can be more open. The openness is probably helpful as it encourages more people to come forward. I would assume for he police to act like they are then the accusations are pretty substantive. The fact tat he investigation has already led to another arrest would also suggest there is something to it.
 
Child pornography involving said victim (or otherwise) for example. I thought it was self evident.

Right so you think these guys video'd it and would only destroy said tapes on the announcement the police were investigating and not on the day it was headline news all this came out?

Seriously, what you are suggesting is so improbable.
 
It was going to be different because the accused is dead. He has no rights per se so the police can be more open. The openness is probably helpful as it encourages more people to come forward. I would assume for he police to act like they are then the accusations are pretty substantive. The fact tat he investigation has already led to another arrest would also suggest there is something to it.

Maybe, but to what extent do we take into consideration media pressure. :)
 
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