Julian Assange cannot be extradited

PlacidCasual · 9 Jul 2021 at 16:47

The US-UK extradition treaty is a travesty irrespective of the Assange Case and should have been ripped up years ago. Likewise the old EU Arrest Warrant was a disaster. Could we please sort this blinkin mess out and put inplace fair processes instead of poltical expediency.

mattyfez · 9 Jul 2021 at 16:53

Good luck with that, have fun!

Nasher · 9 Jul 2021 at 17:01

Not sure why the default shouldn't be if they are a forign criminal, they do their time and get shipped home. Assange isn't a British citizen so has no right to stay, nor do we have a right to hold him now that he has been released from prison.

He should go back to Aus and the US can deal with them. The UK should have washed their hands of it months ago.

mattyfez · 9 Jul 2021 at 17:45

Nasher said:
Not sure why the default shouldn't be if they are a forign criminal, they do their time and get shipped home. Assange isn't a British citizen so has no right to stay, nor do we have a right to hold him now that he has been released from prison.

He should go back to Aus and the US can deal with them. The UK should have washed their hands of it months ago.

The issue with the above is that he's not technically a criminal as he's not been convicted in a fair trail.

Nasher · 9 Jul 2021 at 17:49

mattyfez said:
The issue with the above is that he's not technically a criminal as he's not been convicted in a fair trail.

He was convicted of skipping bail in the UK and did 12 months, that was it.

mattyfez · 9 Jul 2021 at 18:05

Nasher said:
He was convicted of skipping bail in the UK and did 12 months, that was it.

So he's done his time then.
What's your point caller?

potatolord · 9 Jul 2021 at 18:22

mattyfez said:
I'ts more a human rights issue, If he gets extradited to the USA, he'll end up 'commiting suicide' via a double tap to the back of the head, with the guard mysteriously asleep and the CCTV mysteriously malfunctioniong at the same time.

Does the US have a recent history of political prisoners being murdered by gunshot while on remand/ in jail?

Given his general behaviour, he's more likely to have his head smashed with a weights bar in the gym by a fellow prisoner he's annoyed. I'd rate the chance of that far higher.

mattyfez · 9 Jul 2021 at 18:47

potatolord said:
Does the US have a recent history of political prisoners being murdered by gunshot while on remand/ in jail?

Given his general behaviour, he's more likely to have his head smashed with a weights bar in the gym by a fellow prisoner he's annoyed. I'd rate the chance of that far higher.

Maybe not by public excetution, but they (USA) do have form for politicaly significant prisoners 'expiring' unexpectedly before they are allowed to make a case in court, hahahah

Colonel_Klinck · 9 Jul 2021 at 19:03

I sympathised with Wikileaks and Assange when they were just bringing illegal acts by governments to our attention. Once they got involved in politics and elections I couldn't care what happened to him. We should definitely boot him out and send him back to his country of nationality. He's cost tax payers enough.

potatolord · 9 Jul 2021 at 19:05

mattyfez said:
Maybe not by public excetution, but they (USA) do have form for politicaly significant prisoners 'expiring' unexpectedly before they are allowed to make a case in court, hahahah

They just have to put in in with general population. He's got a long history of annoying people, and you can't do that in there.

mattyfez · 9 Jul 2021 at 19:23

In where?
Can we send the entire cabinet office along with him?
If the yanks want to send that woman who killed a young kid back to actually go to court in exchange I'll call that a fair deal.

Nasher · 9 Jul 2021 at 20:11

Colonel_Klinck said:
I sympathised with Wikileaks and Assange when they were just bringing illegal acts by governments to our attention. Once they got involved in politics and elections I couldn't care what happened to him. We should definitely boot him out and send him back to his country of nationality. He's cost tax payers enough.

They did more than just that though. They started leaking personal details of all the soldiers. Most having nothing to do with these events. Along with a load of other un-related stuff.

Then they started leaking loads of other documents from other countries. Snowden did his thing and went and hid in Russia, well he thinks he is. Really he is an emergency bargaining chip for Russia and he is naive if he doesn't realise it.

mattyfez · 9 Jul 2021 at 20:33

If you have nothing to hide, what's your problem hahaha

Nasher · 9 Jul 2021 at 20:50

Well appart from Islam mentalists turning up on their doorstep one night...

potatolord · 9 Jul 2021 at 21:04

mattyfez said:
In where?
Can we send the entire cabinet office along with him?
If the yanks want to send that woman who killed a young kid back to actually go to court in exchange I'll call that a fair deal.

In jail. I thought that was clear from the context of my post. Assange's biggest risk in jail is his habit of annoying everyone he meets.

The Cabinet Office? All 2,000 of them, including the admin assistants? A bit rough on the civil service, isn't it?

I agree Sacoolas should face charges in the UK, according to what I've seen reported.

fastwunz · 9 Jul 2021 at 21:43

mattyfez said:
So he's done his time then.
What's your point caller?

exactly.

Energize · 10 Jul 2021 at 03:56

Nasher said:
They did more than just that though. They started leaking personal details of all the soldiers. Most having nothing to do with these events. Along with a load of other un-related stuff.

Then they started leaking loads of other documents from other countries. Snowden did his thing and went and hid in Russia, well he thinks he is. Really he is an emergency bargaining chip for Russia and he is naive if he doesn't realise it.

Snowden should be given The Presidential Medal of Freedom for his contributions, a true patriot compared to the other government employees.

Sankari · 29 Jul 2021 at 07:39

Ecuador has revoked Assange's citizenship.

You love to see it.

Mr Jack · 10 Dec 2021 at 10:34

Looks like rape-boy is heading to America after the USA made commitments about his pre- and post- trial treatment.

BowdonUK · 10 Dec 2021 at 11:34

He shouldn't be in prison.