Is a more powerful GPU definitely necessary? Usually there isnt that much difference in performance between modern cards, and slightly older models usually the prices difference is high but the performance difference is near to impossible to spot with the naked eye.
Just about to buy a PC from parts can you check if my build will work? Thankyou!
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Yes, you will notice the difference, and there is quite a lot of difference between say an R9 280 and an R9 290, here's some benchmarks http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1332?vs=1068
Also I wouldn't really recommend going for an AM3+ setup now, it's pretty much a dead socket and there's no upgrade paths to speak of - if you went for 1150-Z97 then you get future (rumoured) broadwell support and you could always drop in a higher end CPU in the future
8320E is a great budget CPU, but for this budget ideally you'd be looking at Intel simply for the upgrade paths in the future
Obviously it's the OPs decision at the end of the day though
Im not gonna upgrade this pc its just a budget pc to last as long as the modern concoles I want it to out perform them, and it does. When the next generation of consoles come out in however many years I will buy a new PC, upgrades seem a pointless to me its like you dont get that much extra performance (not enough to meet the demands of future games) and are better off buying a whole new rig most of the time.
Yes, you will notice the difference, and there is quite a lot of difference between say an R9 280 and an R9 290, here's some benchmarks http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1332?vs=1068
Also I wouldn't really recommend going for an AM3+ setup now, it's pretty much a dead socket and there's no upgrade paths to speak of - if you went for 1150-Z97 then you get future (rumoured) broadwell support and you could always drop in a higher end CPU in the future
8320E is a great budget CPU, but for this budget ideally you'd be looking at Intel simply for the upgrade paths in the future
Obviously it's the OPs decision at the end of the day though
Ok cool thankyou sir!
I tell you scan really messed up, I built a system on their website, I asked in the pre sales forum on will it work etc and I asked yesterday and still no response today, you would think they wanted the money, but you guys pounced on my question immediately and im tempted to say sod it to scan, also they charge like 20 pounds for delivery you guys are free on deliveries.
This is a safer bet I think
YOUR BASKET
1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 290 PCS+ OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £215.99
1 x AOC E2460SH 24" Widescreen 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Black £109.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320E Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £104.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX316C10FBK2/8) £65.99
1 x Gigabyte 970A-DS3P AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £50.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £39.95
1 x Microlab M113 2.1 24W Speakers £24.95
1 x Aerocool V3X Devil Red Edition Midi-Tower - Black / Red £14.99
Total : £692.82 (includes shipping : £12.50).
How do I put that in my basket?
How do I put your rig into my basket?
Ok 1 problem the 8 core AMD processor you gave me runs at 3.0 Ghz where as the one from competitor at the same price is 8 cores and runs at 4.0 ghz and they both cost the same.
Why did you downgrade my Processor? Do you have the one competitor has?
Secondly the motherboard isnt as good it doesnt even have a crossfire option? (I may change my mind later) and yet its the same price as the competitor motehr broard.
Lastly seagate hard drives are they any good? They have been unreliable for me in the past I dont want to spend any extra on a HD but do you know of a particularly reliable make? Im sick of my HDrives failing on me with the click of death.
Finally the PSU says it covers quad core processor cooling but not 8 core, im buying an 8 core processor is it covered? So basically with the sunflower PSU its a 50 quid PSU but im getting it for 30-40 because of free delivery?
Why did you downgrade my Processor? Do you have the one competitor has?
Secondly the motherboard isnt as good it doesnt even have a crossfire option? (I may change my mind later) and yet its the same price as the competitor motehr broard.
Lastly seagate hard drives are they any good? They have been unreliable for me in the past I dont want to spend any extra on a HD but do you know of a particularly reliable make? Im sick of my HDrives failing on me with the click of death.
Finally the PSU says it covers quad core processor cooling but not 8 core, im buying an 8 core processor is it covered? So basically with the sunflower PSU its a 50 quid PSU but im getting it for 30-40 because of free delivery?
thanks bro !
a few problems b4 i buy
Ok 1 problem the 8 core AMD processor you gave me runs at 3.0 Ghz where as the one from competitor at the same price is 8 cores and runs at 4.0 ghz and they both cost the same.
Why did you downgrade my Processor? Do you have the one competitor has?
Secondly the motherboard isnt as good it doesnt even have a crossfire option? (I may change my mind later) and yet its the same price as the competitor motehr broard.
Lastly seagate hard drives are they any good? They have been unreliable for me in the past I dont want to spend any extra on a HD but do you know of a particularly reliable make? Im sick of my HDrives failing on me with the click of death.
Finally the PSU says it covers quad core processor cooling but not 8 core, im buying an 8 core processor is it covered? So basically with the sunflower PSU its a 50 quid PSU but im getting it for 30-40 because of free delivery?
This is the 4ghz one
YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8350 Black Edition 4.00GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £137.99
Total : £147.59 (includes shipping : £8.00).
Basically you're either going to have to spend a little more or not. You could get the one I speced and overclock it but ideally you need a diffrerent mobo for that.
I asked you about crossfiring and you said you will never upgrade this computer, just replace it when the time comes, so......
This competitor, are you sure you're seeing the price including tax?
The PSU will be fine! and Seagate are decent! Could be down to that potato power supply you've been using!
AMD FX 8350 Black Edition 8 Core Processor 4.00GHz Piledriver Socket AM3+ 106 b4 tax 128 after
I know I may upgrade it isnt likely so im not gonna buy a psu for it but at the same time i wouldnt mind the option being there on the mother board for no extra cost like at the competitor
I wont bother with overclocking I thought the processor overclocked itself these days with the "turbo" boost?
Ok if yous ay seagate are reliable I will believe you maybe it was the potatoe psu but i had a hitachi deskstar that last years and years despite the spud power and the sea gate ones burn out kinda fast giving you the click of death just at the worst possible time lol
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I just want a new mother board, and the more expensive 4gihz amd 8 core processor
YOUR BASKET
1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 290 PCS+ OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £215.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8350 Black Edition 4.00GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £137.99
1 x AOC E2460SH 24" Widescreen 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Black £109.99
1 x Gigabyte 990XA-UD3 AMD 990X (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £79.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX316C10FBK2/8) £65.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £39.95
1 x Microlab M113 2.1 24W Speakers £24.95
1 x Aerocool V3X Devil Red Edition Midi-Tower - Black / Red £14.99
Total : £754.82 (includes shipping : £12.50).
Thankyou kind sir!
Manufacturer: BenQ Viewing Angle: 170 / 160 (°H/°V)
Panel Type: LED (Backlit) Contrast Ratio/DCR: 12000000:1
Screen Size: 24" Speakers: Yes
Pitch Size: 0.276 Response Time: 1 ms
MAC Compatible: Yes Brightness: 250 cd/m²
Connectors: 1 x D-Sub
1 x Dual Link DVI-D
2 x HDMI
1 x Headphone
Web Camera: No
HDCP: Yes Power Usage (Switched on):
TV Tuner: No VESA: Yes
Tilt: No VESA Options (mm): 100 x 100
Swivel Stand: No 3D Support: No
Pivot: No Widescreen: Yes
Height Adjustable: No Monitor Colour: Black
Resolution: 1920x1080 Dimensions (with stand): 579 x 435 x 189 (WxHxD)
Refresh Rate: 60Hz Dimensions (without stand): 579 x 350 x 63 (WxHxD)
Panel Type: LED (Backlit) Contrast Ratio/DCR: 12000000:1
Screen Size: 24" Speakers: Yes
Pitch Size: 0.276 Response Time: 1 ms
MAC Compatible: Yes Brightness: 250 cd/m²
Connectors: 1 x D-Sub
1 x Dual Link DVI-D
2 x HDMI
1 x Headphone
Web Camera: No
HDCP: Yes Power Usage (Switched on):
TV Tuner: No VESA: Yes
Tilt: No VESA Options (mm): 100 x 100
Swivel Stand: No 3D Support: No
Pivot: No Widescreen: Yes
Height Adjustable: No Monitor Colour: Black
Resolution: 1920x1080 Dimensions (with stand): 579 x 435 x 189 (WxHxD)
Refresh Rate: 60Hz Dimensions (without stand): 579 x 350 x 63 (WxHxD)
Thanks bro I think the monitor you chose is better price to performance by a fair way.
Whats this motherboard like? It allows for 2 GPU's correct does it allow for overclocking, and upgrades in the future?
Features
• GIGABYTE UEFI DualBIOS™ technology
• GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™4 Classic technology
• Supports AMD AM3+ FX/ AM3 Phenom™ II, Athlon™ II series processors
• 2 PCI-E 2.0 x16 interfaces with AMD CrossFire support
• 6 native SATA3 ports with up to 6Gbps link speed and RAID 0,1,5,10 support
• 4 USB 3.0 ports with transfer rates of up to 5Gbps
• GIGABYTE On/Off Charge technology
Technical Specification
Manufacturer: Gigabyte Graphics Connectors:
Form Factor: ATX Graphics Interface: PCIe 2.0 (x16)
CPU Socket: AM3/AM3+ SLI Support:
QPI Speed: N/A Crossfire Support: 2 Way CrossFireX
Chipset: AMD 970 Water Cooled: No
Memory Type: DDR3 SATA: SATA III 6Gb/s
Memory Channel: Dual RAID: SATA
Memory Type (ECC): Non-ECC Expansion Slots: 2 x PCI (32 bit)
3 x PCIe 2.0 x1
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 Bandwidth)
Memory Type (R/U): Unbuffered Internal I/O: 1 x 24pin (V)
1 x 4pin (V)
1 x FP Audio Header
6 x SATA III - 6Gb/s
1 x SPDIF-Out Header
3 x USB 2.0 Header
1 x USB 3.0 Header
Memory Speed (Mhz): DDR3 - 1066
DDR3 - 1333
DDR3 - 1600
DDR3 - 1866
DDR3 - 2000(OC)
Back Panel: 1 x 10/100/1000 (LAN)
1 x Line In
1 x Line Out
1 x Mic In
1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
6 x USB 2.0
2 x USB 3.0
Memory Capacity: 32GB
970A-DS3P Gigabyte AM3+ ATX Motherboard
Gigabyte
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P, AMD 970, SAM3/AM3+, DDR3, PCIe 2.0 (x16), 2 Way CrossFireX, ATX : image 1 Click to zoom
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P, AMD 970, SAM3/AM3+, DDR3, PCIe 2.0 (x16), 2 Way CrossFireX, ATX : image 2 Click to zoom
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P, AMD 970, SAM3/AM3+, DDR3, PCIe 2.0 (x16), 2 Way CrossFireX, ATX : image 3 Click to zoom
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P, AMD 970, SAM3/AM3+, DDR3, PCIe 2.0 (x16), 2 Way CrossFireX, ATX : image 4 Click to zoom
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Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P, AMD 970, SAM3/AM3+, DDR3, PCIe 2.0 (x16), 2 Way CrossFireX, ATX
Features
• 1007MHz Core(OC mode)
• 977MHz Core(Gaming mode)
• 947MHz Core(Silent mode)
• 4096 GDDR5 5000MHz Memory
Technical Specification
Manufacturer: MSI Cooling: Fan
Chipset: Radeon R9 290 Interface: PCIe 3.0 (x16)
Edition: TWIN FROZR IV Connectivity: 1 x DisplayPort
2 x DVI-D
1 x HDMI
Manufacturing Process: 28 nm Maximum Digital Resolution: 4096x2160
Streams: 2560 Maximum VGA Resolution:
Core Clock: 1007 MHz Multi Monitor: 4 displays
Boost Clock: CrossFire: Yes
Memory: 4GB Low Profile Support:
Memory Bit Rate: 512 Bit Package Type: Retail
Memory Type: GDDR5 Graphics Card Power:
Memory Clock: 5000 MHz Maximum GPU Temperature:
228 pounds incl vat
How does this compare to your card?
Looks worse price and performance.
Looks like you have to buy different parts from different places to get the best deal.
• 1007MHz Core(OC mode)
• 977MHz Core(Gaming mode)
• 947MHz Core(Silent mode)
• 4096 GDDR5 5000MHz Memory
Technical Specification
Manufacturer: MSI Cooling: Fan
Chipset: Radeon R9 290 Interface: PCIe 3.0 (x16)
Edition: TWIN FROZR IV Connectivity: 1 x DisplayPort
2 x DVI-D
1 x HDMI
Manufacturing Process: 28 nm Maximum Digital Resolution: 4096x2160
Streams: 2560 Maximum VGA Resolution:
Core Clock: 1007 MHz Multi Monitor: 4 displays
Boost Clock: CrossFire: Yes
Memory: 4GB Low Profile Support:
Memory Bit Rate: 512 Bit Package Type: Retail
Memory Type: GDDR5 Graphics Card Power:
Memory Clock: 5000 MHz Maximum GPU Temperature:
228 pounds incl vat
How does this compare to your card?
Looks worse price and performance.
Looks like you have to buy different parts from different places to get the best deal.
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