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Just because new shiny hits doesn't mean we all have to upgrade

easyrider

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Skylake hits and now all our systems are as old has the hills ? Nope ... I've been on the quite old x99 platform and saw very little performance for the amount of coin I laid out .

Regret selling my 6 core Xeon x 58 and I'm currently rocking a 4790k

Upgrades have to be worth it people . If your a gamer buying a 5820k will see you no upgrade in real terms . I've seen it and worn the t shirt

Quite frankly I think a 5 % increase with skylake over Devils canyon is just taking the mick .In a blind test no one would know !
 
ShakeNBake said:
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It's 12 months old... And people are upgrading to it from 4790k

Why didn't they do it in August 2014 they've missed out on 12 months of an upgrade :p

Just because skylake is only 5% faster doesn't suddenly make 4790k pap :p and urge me to spend hundreds on 12 month old tech !

What they need to do with x 99 is to strip the mobos down to what we need on them ...I don't need ten sata 3 ports and HQ onboard audio ... A cheap DAC will always be superior ... I don't need two lan ports :p
 
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harz_marz said:
Is the i5 6600K not good value at £200? I am upgrading from an i5 2500 (non k) and think that I will see a significant bump as I am now CPU bottlenecked in lots of games on my 980ti.
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I would rather have a 4790k for 30 more or even less used...4 cores 8 threads and 4.5ghz +

I tested both the 4690k and 4790k in games and HT really offers a boost in certain games.

The 6600k is not a 200 quid chip IMO.
 
harz_marz said:
I guess I am very "green" when it comes to CPUs. I have never overclocked in my life! So you would recommend the i7 4790K?

I guess I liked the idea of using DDR4 and I need a new mobo anyways.
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Without doubt ...if you already have some DDR3 getting a 4790k is a no brainer ...why spend 200 on an i5 6600k and then more on some ddr4 that offers no performance gains :p


Even at stock 4ghz and turbo 4.4ghz plus 8 threads it's great.
 
harz_marz said:
I am hitting 100% cpu with Crysis 3 on my i5 2500 which I am disappointed with, getting drops to 30fps on my 980 ti @ 1440p. I did not have this issue with my 970 @ 1080p, is this normal?
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Crysis 3 loves threads...get a decent CPU !!!! :D

How much DDR 3 have you got ?
 
z97p is a great mobo for the money. And it's only 68 quid...

Gaming is about bang for buck mate...choose wisely pair that with a 4790k and you have mobo and chip for roughly the same price as a 6700k :p
 
jjgreenwood said:
These threads are getting a bit odd. It's been the case for years now that if you have a modern intel processor then for most people there is no need to upgrade. It's not really any surprise that skylake is no different.

Saying devils canyon is a better chip is wrong though. Once the retailers are actually competing on price then it will be far cheaper than building an x99 system.

All new hardware is too expensive for what it is at release, not sure why people expect skylake to be any different.
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Will it?

Most people upgrading already have DDR3 and if you're a couple of gens behind then why buy into skylake?

If you need to buy DDR 4 for a new build then 5820k is where it's at period.

200 quid on a 6600k makes no sense...

Skylake is odd...its in a rock and a hard place...to expensive for 4790k upgraders and only 5% increase .

Or if you have an gen 2 i7 then you either jump to x99 or keep your ram and get a cheap mobo and plop a 4790k in.
 
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jjgreenwood said:
if you have existing kit that's working there is not much point in replacing it at all unless there is something specific you need it to do for for work.
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Like more FPS?

If we are talking about gaming which seems to be much of the conversation and your stuff breaks then you may as well go 6600k. It is going to drive your FPS through whatever screen you have faster than anything else. Unless you are streaming at the same time i7 is pointless as more than 4 cores won't be used and with dx12 processor load will decrease making it even more pointless. At least the platform gives you everything needed for a fast hard drive, sli and quick memory.
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Eh?

X99 is great if you just want to have the most powerful stuff, which I completely get. It is more expensive though, and it isn't going to push that 144hz monitor as well as the guy with the new i5.
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You've just contradicted yourself...You just said 6600K was fastest?

If you buy the cheap Z97 setup then you have old memory, no option for super fast storage, a worse chip, slower motherboard and ultimately you won't have saved much money because if you shop around z170 is competitive.
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DDR3 makes no difference at this moment in time. Its marketing spin

I have tested DDR4 and DDR3 with a 5930k and 4970K at the same clock speed.
 
jjgreenwood said:
6600k is the fastest for gaming which thrives on single thread performance, I think you know what I was getting at :D

I think the biggest contradiction in this thread is saying that you may as well spend the extra on X99 on one hand, and then stating that if you don't you may as well save a few quid and go for z97/i7. Neither of those options are going to give you the best performance or the biggest bang for buck for gaming.

Regardless of what is sensible or not many will like to have a 6 core chip :D
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The difference is about 40 quid between x99 and going skylake


Plus your post makes no sense .

EDIT: in fact your post is BS
 
Intel Core i5-6600K 3.9GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail

Asus Maximus VIII Gene Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard

TeamGroup Elite 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C16 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit - Black

Total : £473.57

Intel 5820K 3.30GHz (Haswell-E) Socket LGA2011-V3 Processor - Retail

Gigabyte X99-SLI Intel X99 (Socket 2011) DDR4 ATX Motherboard Gigabyte X99-SLI Intel X99

TeamGroup Elite 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C16 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit - Black

Total : £537.56

64 quid more for 6 core and 12 threads why anyone if buying new now,and wanting new DDR4 would not go 5820k is beyond me.
 
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BornEvil said:
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In the case of DDR3 vs DDR4, I would go DDR4 for resell value, with the premium of about £30 for a 16gb kit. If you already have 8GB DDR3 kit, then in all likelihood, you already have a capable rig of Sandybridge+, which makes a Skylake upgrade pointless let alone :)
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Sandy to a 4790k and an cheap z97 and keeping your DDR 3 would make sense.

I don't get this resale stuff tbh... You buy the fastest your budget allows.

My path is cheaper and stonks a 6600k for less :p
 
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Its actually £527.96

with free shipping

You lot can convince yourselves until the cows come home...

But at current pricing Skylake is fail.
 
I had a 6 core Xeon then grabbed a 5930k bundle cheap in mm

It was brilliant in video editing but not 650 quid s worth of brilliant .

I just think the 6700k is x99 money and it's not even 6 core so why bother ?
 
Orangey said:
Can't believe the shills are starting to brainwash people.

Skylake is no good. It's even slower than its predecessor in some things. There's no IPC uplift. Stop trying to salvage it.

Stay strong!! Don't waste money. And certainly don't reward Intel for putting out a bland chip.
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I know ... :D
 
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