JRS said:
I'm sure we can work something out.
Dashik, I considered posting a long-winded reply to your post....and I've just deleted it. I'm going to sleep on it to decide if it's worth it. For now, I'll address one bit of your post:
I've actually done some track stuff, both in modern cars and in classics with absolutely nothing in the way of driver aids - best of the lot was blatting an E-Type around Prestwold. I'm no Stirling Moss, but I'm not too bad.
Would I entertain the idea of driving on the roads the same way I'd drive on a track? Christ no. Lots more room to work with on a track than on the road after all. Besides, the speeds I'd use on a track would be inappropriate on-road. And that's the key thing.
There are a couple of roads I know in Burton - one is a 30mph limit, the other a 50mph limit. The 30mph road is straight, wide, has no junctions along it's length. You could quite happily do a bit more than 30mph on there without it being dangerous. The 50mph road has several junctions that trucks pull out of with impunity, and isn't as wide so you have no chance at taking avoiding action. You'd be mad to even do 50mph during the day along there.
Yes, 50mph on the first road is illegal. No, it isn't dangerous. Yes, 50mph on the second road is perfectly legal. No, it isn't even remotely safe half the time. And that is the biggest problem I have with the whole "Speed Kills" mantra - it's complete ******** unless you look at road conditions, weather, traffic, a whole host of factors that combined with inappropriate speed can cause crashes.
I have to say - why the need to get all confrontational in that quote above? Could you not have made your point without being fairly insulting?
Maybe this posting malarky is hindering my freedom of expression
You have pretty much repeated what I said although maybe more eloquently.
I am not saying speed kills, If fact if my posts were read then you would have noted that I disagree with that position.
The point I was trying to make was like it or not, agree or not the LAW states you should not speed.
I am amoungst the first to argue for a reveiw of the road limits and would fully support the increase in national limits if demonstrated a rise in accident rate or, more importantly, the seriousness of any accidents did not increase.
What with all the irrelevant studies that get published you would think the Government could at least fund that one.
With regards to the technology/capabilities of modern cars I drive a New Mini Cooper and teach in the car as well. Its probably one of the best equipped Minis around, I got all the toys. I can assure you its not slow on twisty roads! But I do not have to exceed speed limits or be careless to enjoy the car.
The problem is that although cars are vastly improved in an ageing population driving standards are while better than most of the world, still lacking to a large degree. Most peoples last exposure to formal training re driving was lessons for there test. That could be a long time ago and no updating of skills since. How many people have read the latest Highway code recently never mind Driving the essential skills or an alternative current driving guide?
I have no problems with people enjoying there cars appropriatly but the fact remains while I wish some aspects of the law were different Speeding is not legal and therefore is to be avoided.
On one side everyone argues that the law makes no sense as in there opinion they can drive down road A faster than the posted limit safely (and I know of several roads locally where I would agree with that statement) the fact remains that it is not legal to do so.
Equally I can think of several roads, like you mentioned, that its almost suicidal to drive down at any speed!!!
Where do you draw the line? Surely you have to try and decide on a balance between personal freedom to move around and the risk to other, less capable drivers/road users and pedestrians. Just because you or I may be able to safely drive down a road does not neccesarily make it safe for the next driver to do the same.
The fact that it may be safe AT THE TIME is not the issue its the fact that is not legal thats the problem.
Oh and while it may be read as insulting and interpreted as such at no point was that the intention. ok?
You seemed to be making a direct link between speeding and smashing cars into stuff, and we both know that the link is certainly not that direct!
(kidding) 
