just started playing oblivion

how am i ment to erarn 40k for a house, when the most a trader will buy my stuff for is 500-1k gold, even when the item is valued at 28k + :(



Wait - in a few levels you'll have so much money you won't know what to do with. BTW, the armourer in Anvil is the man to deal with. The problem here is not the game but the lack of patience of some of the people playing it.


M
 
Rubbish, the trade system becomes more imbalanced the longer you play. You'll constantly come across items that you'll be unable to sell at full price even with maxed mercantile skills and a shop investment. Any system that allows you to sell a million items worth 300 gold to a shopkeeper but not one item worth 301 gold is extremely flawed. That's purely the games fault.

Oblivion Unofficial patch: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5296
it's worth checking to see if there's a newer version or for Shivering Isles compatibility as that's a link from a post I did over a year ago (http://forum.preys-world.com/viewtopic.php?t=17996) pimping the mods I was using.
 
Wait - in a few levels you'll have so much money you won't know what to do with. BTW, the armourer in Anvil is the man to deal with. The problem here is not the game but the lack of patience of some of the people playing it.


M

yeah exaclty, how can you expect to buy one of the best houses in the game when you just started? play the game, you will eventually get results and all of a sudden you will be complaining they are coming too fast. the best idea fo rplaying the game is think ok who am i, think am i ruthless, kind, neutral, shadow man, always runs, always rides horse, helpful, thief, etc and wrtie it down if you have to and then play the game exactly as you have decided for your character, this was when you get presented with a million and 1 ways of doing something you can think about what the character would do and you will be role playing and having fun.
 
Wait - in a few levels you'll have so much money you won't know what to do with. BTW, the armourer in Anvil is the man to deal with. The problem here is not the game but the lack of patience of some of the people playing it.


M


Oh i have the patience its just what's the point of having enchanted stuff worth 28k+ and only being able to sell it for 1k because the merchant has no more gold :/


Still I own at poisons and archery :D

Edit : i am also playing with quite a few mods including levelling ones so i have been playing quite a while anyway.
 
Wait - in a few levels you'll have so much money you won't know what to do with. BTW, the armourer in Anvil is the man to deal with. The problem here is not the game but the lack of patience of some of the people playing it.


M

totally agree with you, i recommened Oblvion to one of my friends, i told him, its a great game but u have to give it time and patience atleast 10hrs of play and u will love it.
days later after getting it he tells me, he stopped playing it because the rats Kept killing him at the start :rolleyes:
lol.
 
Oh i have the patience its just what's the point of having enchanted stuff worth 28k+ and only being able to sell it for 1k because the merchant has no more gold :/




Because, believe it or not, the dev team didn't want you getting mega-rich with one raid of Rockmilk Cavern. The same reason none of the traders in Morrowind had much money either - although there you got the "swap" option if you had other valuable stuff. As I said, you'll quite quickly be stupidly rich. Why should you be able to buy (say) the Skingrad house before you've worked really hard to get the money?

I have to admit that I've modded my game myself here, but all I've done is add 1000 gold to about fifteen major storkeepers.


M
 
I agree with Meridian on this one. You really don't NEED a house at lower levels, I only found I needed one when I had armour to be stored, or displayed for the fun of it. :p

I simply waited, bought a cheap (but not the cheapest) house and worked from there. Soon after I had stupid amounts of money I don't think I could actually spend it all if I tried. Then again I was the sort of person that whilst off in a dungeon I sometimes worked out what items had the best price/weight ratio, and made sure I wasn't carrying something stupidly heavy just because it was worth an obscene amount I wouldn't be able to sell it to a vendor for.
 
also just incase people were still wanting a decent house on the cheap highlight the text below...

go to anvil and there is a guy who is getting rid of his house (he can be found in the towns inn) and it only cost £5000, for reasons you shall soon find out, but one of the best houses for the price.
 
I agree with Meridian on this one. You really don't NEED a house at lower levels, I only found I needed one when I had armour to be stored, or displayed for the fun of it. :p

I simply waited, bought a cheap (but not the cheapest) house and worked from there. Soon after I had stupid amounts of money I don't think I could actually spend it all if I tried. Then again I was the sort of person that whilst off in a dungeon I sometimes worked out what items had the best price/weight ratio, and made sure I wasn't carrying something stupidly heavy just because it was worth an obscene amount I wouldn't be able to sell it to a vendor for.

massive 200+ weight feather potions are where its at :p
 
OK - Oblivion is a wonderful game but a bit quirky.

0) Unlike like most games, when you level most mobs level with you. This is unlike every other game I can think of. The implications are horrendous. For instance, if you level by just use of social skills and alchemy for example, you character is not really any stronger after levelling BUT THE MOBS ARE!!

1) Major and minor skills.
You don't want to level too fast, and levelling is driven by your major skills. Counter intuitively the skills you use most should be secondary skills and the ones you use least should be primary. This also enables you to control when you level.

2) Over levelling and under levelling. When you level you should get 5 points in three attributes as a bonus. This is controlled by how much you have used skills depending on that attribute prior to levelling. There is a wonderful little mod called diary or log or similar which lets you see at a glance how you are doing. If you get less that 3x5 points you are underlevelling. If you have loads of wasted points when you level you are overlevelling. This may sound as though it takes the fun out of the game but it doesn't - you just keep your eye on things.

3) If you don't consistently underlevel you will have no real trouble with the main quest at any level. Especially if you use conjuration. Personally I find the main story line a bit tedious and didn't even do it in my last run through the game. Note that the mages quest series is as long as some entire full price games. Oblivion is very big.

4) With Oblivion you get into the world and live in it doing as you please. You set your own goals. Get all the houses. Explore everything. Make a fortune. Finish the main quest ASAP. Finish the four main sub plots. Become an outlaw and kill everyone. Be a vampire. Whatever. You decide. The game doesn't.

5) Turn off grass. There is an easy console command to turn grass on and off. Unless you have a stonking PC.

6) Addons I like are 1) a nude add-on so that when I kill a mob and loot it, it doesn't look like it is wearing a nappy. I don't get jollies from looking at pixelated breasts. 2) An add-on to make herbs vanish when you pick them, and reappear when they are regrown. This should have been in the basic game. 3) A UI enhancer. This game is a port from a console and it shows in the awful UI and control system.

7) First character I played clocked up over 500 hours play.

8) There is plenty on the internet about this stuff but I strongly advise you to read up on levelling. If you do as I suggest by the time you hit about level 30 you are starting to become an in-game god. If you underlevel seriously badly you will die and die and die and stop playing a fantastic game out of frustration.

9) Alchemy is the key to victory and money. Potions STACK!!! Potions sell for good money. Alchemy should not be a major skill - you use it too much and you will level you character horribly fast with Alchemy as a main skill.

10) Custom magic spells are for me the most fun feature in the game. You can do some truly evil things with custom spells. A word of warning though: Chameleon is a game killer - when you get it high enough you are effectively invisible to all the mobs (even when hittting them) and the game becomes a walkthrough. I have a little rule NEVER to use it.

11) OK let me stress it finally - this game is about improving your character by bulking out attributes and skills. It is NOT about improving your character by improving its overall level. Levelling is just a tool.

12) Save Games: Save often. Make proper saves - don't always use the quicksave. THE GAME OFTEN DOES NOT REPORT A FAILURE TO SAVE A GAME - you think you are covered and you are not. The save games get very big. I ran out of disk space once but was able to keep on saving without the game telling me. I lost many hours of progress. That's what happens when you let console programmers loose on a PC :) The save games can be moved around without problem by windows standard utilities so you can archive off save games from your main save directory if required.

13) I never use "quick travel". It is more realistic to walk ride or teleport everywhere. You explore better and can collect herbs etc. Quicktravel is a sop for console kiddies with the attention span of mayflys. (This may be a step too far for some ;) )


PS: OP you really need an extra gig of RAM - !GB is just not enough these days. 2GB will stop paging and give you a much smoother gaming experience.
 
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one thing i don't like about the main quest is, it seams designed for mage/tank, not archer/stealth. Half the time you still have to run head on through/into/backwards firing with the main quests.


Still sneaking up and blasting arrows through peoples chests, and hearing them drown in their blood or slitting their throats with deadly reflex is great fun :D
 
I've finished the main quest - without cheating. Well the only cheat I used was for money which allowed me to buy a house :D


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Just finished the main quest and got my lovely dragon armour :D
 
Go to Anvil, go to the pub, talk to Benirus.
5k house fully furnished :)

I wasn't so much interested in the house as rarely buy them, just what's the point in valuing things at over 28k the limiting all shops to 1k-1.5 even if your a master of mercantile?
 
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