Just when I thought Pete Doherty was finally behaving himself

I didn't even realise I was talking to moremoney, gonna use the ignore list for the first time ever I think ._.

I just think it's a fake/troll account now, the topics hes made are worse than DVD bunny.
 
moremoney said:
The point is............................................

The origins are pre WW! let alone WW2, which you never knew.

No fault of yours you are not very good at history, so it is forgiven.
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You're right, I didn't know how far back the phrase dated, but I made no claims about it, so that's irrelevant.

My point was that doherty was singing about the concentration camps, not some older meaning, which he clearly was, given the lyrics posted, but now you're dodging that point because you were wrong. The reason for that is that you don't care about being right or wrong, you just care about arguing and getting some attention. I'm not sure you're a full on troll though. My money would be on your being miserable or depressed in some way. Either way, your posts are tiresome.
 
It doesn't matter which version he was singing - if 1000s of Germans are boo'ing you the last thing you do is carry on with the 'song'.
He knew what he was doing.

I recently had a lot of respect for Pete Doherty after watching him play solo.
It's easy to stand at the front of a band and entertain an audience but standing there with an acoustic and holding them in the palm of your hand takes it to another level.
 
Ya know, i don't think there is another person in the music industry i despise as much as that worthless pile of garbage.
He's been given many more chances to be clean than he's ever deserved.
He should be rotting in a cell somewhere for the utter contempt he showed for what he did in Germany, never mind the contempt he shows for his own country's laws.
Him and Amy winehouse should be locked away somewhere dark...and lonely.

That is all :)
 
I saw Pete get dragged off a stage at an XFM winter wonderland gig for trying to get the crowd up on the stage with him and then climbing the wall of speakers. It's a shame that he is the tortured musician type because as a song writer and an artist when he is not stoned he is an exceptional talent.

Hopefully we will not loose him to insanity and drugs before he sorts himself out. I could add Amy Winehouse to this as well. :(
 
Massive error here.........., he may have used the quote but it had nothing to do with Hitlers Nazi party origionally.

Maybe he found the origional meaning and used it because of that.

The slogan was around in the 1870s, so it could have been taken from then.
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Yawn and old caveat. The nazi flag was taken from a more peaceful symbol but it's what it has come to represent that makes it offensive. Most people will know the phrase from the concentration camps. It's offensive to most people and he knew that when he used it.

Unless of course he wrote the song in the 1870s :rolleyes:
 
Yawn etc,etc.
Please don't get me wrong i hate pete d and all he stands for, but you have to allow him,(even if you don't want to) his excuses, which is all i am putting forward.
 
moremoney said:
Yawn etc,etc.
Please don't get me wrong i hate pete d and all he stands for, but you have to allow him,(even if you don't want to) his excuses, which is all i am putting forward.
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Excuses that are not borne out by the lyrics go question? Do you deny that the song, Arbeit Macht Frei, the lyrics of which are given earlier in the thread, is about the holocaust i.e. about the ww2 era usage of that phrase?
 
To be honest, I think the german police should "lose" him some where, I doubt anyone will care.
 
moremoney said:
I suggest you read the book not chapters that suit.
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I suggest you do that too. The words "Arbeit Macht Frei" could have come from the big bang* for all I and everyone else (bar you) cares. It isn't about where they came from - it's about the intent behind their use, which is pretty obvious from the song lyrics.

It's not like it's unusual for the Nazis to corrupt previously innocent phrases/symbols either. How about we start with the swastika.

moremoney said:
Yawn etc,etc.
Please don't get me wrong i hate pete d and all he stands for, but you have to allow him,(even if you don't want to) his excuses, which is all i am putting forward.
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We don't have to allow him anything. Pete Doherty has long since become one giant excuse and it's time someone gave him the treatment the rest of us would get - a spell behind bars (or better yet, behind padded walls).

* Yes, I know that's ridiculous. Just making a point.
 
Catchy tune.

Who are the dudes in the black leather trench coats with the red, white, black arm bands? They look pretty cool guys.
 
Berserker said:
I suggest you do that too. The words "Arbeit Macht Frei" could have come from the big bang* for all I and everyone else (bar you) cares. It isn't about where they came from - it's about the intent behind their use, which is pretty obvious from the song lyrics.

It's not like it's unusual for the Nazis to corrupt previously innocent phrases/symbols either. How about we start with the swastika.



We don't have to allow him anything. Pete Doherty has long since become one giant excuse and it's time someone gave him the treatment the rest of us would get - a spell behind bars (or better yet, behind padded walls).

* Yes, I know that's ridiculous. Just making a point.
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edit: he may be stupid.



I Am sorry, i can no longer argue for the defense.

Well i can but it ain't worth my trouble.
 
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Call him a druggy all you like but I think they have been a bit over the top here. The papers really don't like him and are simply finding another way to have a dig. He doesn't seem to have done much wrong here.
 
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