Katie Hopkins Sacked

sityeuropa said:
Well she got banned for saying 'Hung like a baboon' retaliating to a threat. Right to ban over that? I don't quite get the offence.
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She got banned for a long string of offences including calling for a "final solution" for muslims in the UK.
 
Mr Jack said:
She got banned for a long string of offences including calling for a "final solution" for muslims in the UK.
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Yeah that was a really bad thing to say, not sure why she thought she would be able to get away with typing that. I've actually not much problem with bans if you type something like that. The problem is that Twitter permanently bans people. If it were a month, or 3 months, then that would seem reasonable. Twitter just seems to want to label people as not suitable for their platform. Katie hasn't posted something shockingly offensive enough in this instance to get a permanent ban. People just don't like her very much and Twitter get's put under pressure to ban her so they do.
 
Chris Grey says they've achieved Brexit? We have? I've not seen it take place yet. It's in limbo.
 
JRS said:
@Roar87 - regarding your comment re: echo chambers...


I do have to wonder how much of it is perception and how much is reality.
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Yes statues bad. Business Bad. That's what the "left" believe. Definitely couldn't be that honouring slavers isn't who we are any more. Definitely couldn't be that most of this "left wing media" are businesses. I wonder how many of those 10k followers are there to gawp at what nonsense he spouts next.
 
Roar87 said:
Yeah that was a really bad thing to say, not sure why she thought she would be able to get away with typing that. I've actually not much problem with bans if you type something like that. The problem is that Twitter permanently bans people. If it were a month, or 3 months, then that would seem reasonable. Twitter just seems to want to label people as not suitable for their platform. Katie hasn't posted something shockingly offensive enough in this instance to get a permanent ban. People just don't like her very much and Twitter get's put under pressure to ban her so they do.
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She's been given a string of bans in the past, surely at some point it's reasonable to say someone is not capable of behaving properly on a platform and permanently boot them?

She hasn't been banned for her one recent infraction but for the sum total.
 
Roar87 said:
. . . People just don't like {Ms. Hopkins) very much . . .
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She seems to have made a deliberate effort to court controversy, typically (but by no means exclusively) based on racism. You only need to have a look the "Views and controversies" section on her Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hopkins#Views_and_controversies) to confirm this.

It isn't really surprising that many people despise the conceited, self-publicising racist troll.
 
ianh said:
Both can continue their "far right hate speech" using plenty of other mediums, only now the general public won't hear about it so they can't judge for themselves how bad/good the pair are, plus anyone who may not have heard of Hopkins, because she's been "out of the news" for a while, are now going to ask "well what did she get banned for?" and this particular reason is very weak, leading to some of the general public thinking she's been judged too harshly, feeling sorry for her and that twitter is out of control.

Yeah, sounds like a great "victory" there!

How about this for a bit of rational, common sense logic - let them stay on the platform, let them say horrible things, let everyone see what horrible people they are and let everyone laugh at them or ignore them and watch them fall away due to the lack of Press reporting starving them of PR and clout. Unless that is you are scared that, if people should hear what they say, they might agree with them?

I think the quote is “When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
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A country with a heavily storied history of racism expelled this moron for being a racist dimwit, if you're anywhere near the side arguing for her, I don't know what to tell you pal.

We're all guilty of moaning about how dreadful Twitter is, mainly because they've allowed these kind of vacuous, dreadful, intellectually bankrupt excuses for humans to have a platform to spew bile and garbage into the ether for too long.*

*Left and Right. There are idiots on every side of every argument, don't make it about that.
 
Mushy Peas said:
A country with a heavily storied history of racism expelled this moron for being a racist dimwit, if you're anywhere near the side arguing for her, I don't know what to tell you pal.

We're all guilty of moaning about how dreadful Twitter is, mainly because they've allowed these kind of vacuous, dreadful, intellectually bankrupt excuses for humans to have a platform to spew bile and garbage into the ether for too long.*

*Left and Right. There are idiots on every side of every argument, don't make it about that.
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Start with the mainstream media outlets. They've made it their little kingdom.
 
V F said:
Start with the mainstream media outlets. They've made it their little kingdom.
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Who is this mainsteam media boogeyman you're on about? As far as I can tell it's a slur used by people moaning about news they disagree with.

If you don't like it, don't watch/read it. People moan about professional outrage and all that nonsense and the lack of self-awareness beggars belief.

edit: this also ignores your total nonsense deflection that Twitter is somehow a news outlet.
 
Mushy Peas said:
A country with a heavily storied history of racism expelled this moron for being a racist dimwit, if you're anywhere near the side arguing for her, I don't know what to tell you pal.
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I'd like if you did tell me though because to me, and I could be completely wrong here, it looks like you're saying something like "if you are arguing for her, you might be a racist too" - well at least that's how your statement appears to me, only less blunt than just openly saying that anyway.

However if I'm wrong then please correct me with what you actually meant and I'll happily apologise for getting your message mixed up.
 
ianh said:
I'd like if you did tell me though because to me, and I could be completely wrong here, it looks like you're saying something like "if you are arguing for her, you might be a racist too" - well at least that's how your statement appears to me, only less blunt than just openly saying that anyway.

However if I'm wrong then please correct me with what you actually meant and I'll happily apologise for getting your message mixed up.
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I'm not calling you anything, I don't know who you are. I'm just saying it's not a good look to be on the side defending a known quantity that is equal parts moron and widely documented racist when the argument is that she has been deplatformed by a Left wing agenda when the reality is that it's for repeatedly spewing hate and bile to feather her own nest.

Defending people who have made errors in judgement in the past is fine and nobody should be tarred for life for a single error in judgement, but there is a point at which their baiting nonsense goes beyond the pale and it is well overdue that they just get told to FRO because it's tedious.

E: upon reflection, it is totally unwarranted for me to call her a moron. She knows exactly what she's doing and has cultivated a career out of doing it.
 
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