Kazakhstan fuel protests/insurrection...

Russian troops deploying there are the same units that took over Crimea:


(some twitter commentators are getting a bit excited over that with claims that Russia is trying to annex Kazakhstan, that seems like quite a reach right now - population of Crimea is circa 1/10th of the size and obvs Crimea is significantly smaller - would require rather more troops to annex/occupy the country)

Sadly some protestors were killed, footage of troops seemingly firing live ammunition:


more shooting here:

 
ianh said:
I wonder how isolated this may be or whether it has the potential for a new "Arab Spring" type series of events in other outlying areas should the current "peoples revolution" succeed in Kazakhstan?
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Putin won't allow it, ex-soviet states that Russia belives are spritualy part of mother Russia. I expect the Russian army to hit this very hard, especialy as the Kazak government dictatorship requested thier assistance.
 
Putin won't be happy with these demands:


mattyfez said:
Putin won't allow it, ex-soviet states that Russia belives are spritualy part of mother Russia. I expect the Russian army to hit this very hard, especialy as the Kazak government dictatorship requested thier assistance.
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Putin won't like it, whether he's able to stop it or not is another matter, could be very hard if significant popular support for change.
 
Interesting to see so little coverage in the western media. Putin literally deployed his army there to supress the protestors. Although, I would not call a lot of them protestors, the videos I saw show people trashing everything and arming themselves to the teeth with weapons.

Those protestors are more like militia at this point as they are literally giving full blown military a hard time as they are firing back. There is literally full blown war on streets in some of those cities and the army is attempting to squash armed militias.

It looks like Kazakh army folded over so quickly that they had to get Russians in.
 
mattyfez said:
Putin won't allow it, ex-soviet states that Russia belives are spritualy part of mother Russia. I expect the Russian army to hit this very hard, especialy as the Kazak government dictatorship requested thier assistance.
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Recreating the USSR, and FSB..
 
Enkore said:
Interesting to see so little coverage in the western media. Putin literally deployed his army there to supress the protestors. Although, I would not call a lot of them protestors, the videos I saw show people trashing everything and arming themselves to the teeth with weapons.

Those protestors are more like militia at this point as they are literally giving full blown military a hard time as they are firing back. There is literally full blown war on streets in some of those cities and the army is attempting to squash armed militias.

It looks like Kazakh army folded over so quickly that they had to get Russians in.
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It seems the Kazakh’s are better armed in general than say the Belarusians. This could be a serious headache for Putin if it continues, if he cracks down too hard then he’ll just encourage more to rise up.

Part of the protest does seem to involve pushing back against Russia and this is a well educated population, might not be so easy to suppress now this has started.
 
ianh said:
I wonder how isolated this may be or whether it has the potential for a new "Arab Spring" type series of events in other outlying areas should the current "peoples revolution" succeed in Kazakhstan?
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The USA'll take the Kazak protestors' side and expect Britain and the rest of NATO to get involved. As if Putin, Biden and Jinping aren't bringing the world closer to the brink of the chasm of world war 3 and very likely nuclear oblivion already.
 
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1664kronenbourg said:
The USA'll take the Kazak protestors' side and expect Britain and the rest of NATO to get involved. As if Putin, Biden and Jinping aren't bringing the world closer to the brink of the chasm of world war 3 and very likely nuclear oblivion already.
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Been hearing we're at the brink of WW3 for decades now, it's getting a bit boring, none of the leaders want a world war, it's why the line keeps moving when it's crossed
 
arknor said:
same would happen here if we tried to over throw our overlords.

lets pretend we are better though
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Really, how did you come to that conclusion?

We are able to get rid of our overloads via votes, unless you assume we are run by some secret organisation or saucer people or a dictator like Putin etc?
 
What I find interesting is that people who stormed the Capitol are terrorists but these people burning, looting and destroying buildings in Kazakhstan are freedom protesters? There are stories that they are going from home to home and forcing owners to give up valuables.

I believe the protest has been lost because the bad elements have overwhelmed peaceful protests.

This situation is much better for Putin and much less of a head-ache than say Belarus. Where the protestors were truly peaceful.

These 'protestors' are literally putting up against army in gun-fights. Something is very fishy there.
 
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