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Hi folks ;)
I hope someone here can shed some light on this....

I built my system Few years ago, (Win7) see Sig below.
Ever since I have put up with this problem by turnning off UAC.
But I would prefere to have it working.

I have treid everything I can think of,
fresh installs, (with & without extra software)
All sorts of scans, (MS self scans, Eset, Malwarebytes)
driver updates
Updated bios (many diff configs)
With & without GFX card (treid with onboard GFX)
Even downloaded win7 SP1 ISO from digital river and tried fresh install.

!! I give up !! Please help
I feel like ditching all this hardware and starting again, but fear it would still happen.

Article ID: (KB2715460) from MS site, (not sure I can put a link)
The elevated “Check Disk” dialog box may stop responding for a short period of time on UAC enabled systems.

Trouble is it seems to effect more than just the check disk, Like opening some programs, It just makes the system seem very buggy overall, when UAC is enabled "on any level" of the slider.

Thanks for reading, sorry its a bit long :o
 
Sounds like it's an issue that hasn't been addressed by Microsoft - probably not enough people have complained. Not sure I can suggest a fix as I cannot reproduce the problem on any of the 64-bit installs of Windows 7 I have.

The only thing I can suggest that may help is that it's perfectly possible to check disks from an elevated command prompt. To get that do this:
◾Click Start.
◾In the search box type cmd and then press Ctrl + Shift + Enter. If done properly the below User Account Control window will appear.
◾Click Yes to run the Windows Command Processor as Administrator.
​
Then from there you can type:
Code: 
chkdsk c:

to fix errors found add /f
to check for bad sectors as well add /r

Hope that's of some help.
Gareth
 
This sounds more like a software problem than hardware to me.

Does it start happening straight away after a fresh install? If not, I'd be tempted to take an image of a clean build and install apps, drivers, updates etc. one by one to see if you can identify what's causing it.

The MS article gives very little to go on unfortunately :confused:
 
Hi,
First off thanks for helping.

Gareth thank you for the info, to be honest if it was just check disk it would'nt bother me that much, but it does seem to have an effect on other things too.

Zola25, it was my thinking too, as in sofware!
But over the past 2 or so years I have done fresh installs with different configs, old & new drivers and so on,

Think last time I tried, I had thought I had nailed it to ATI drivers but then it raised its head again, thats why I had also tried removing my ATI R6870 and just tested with on board GFX but problem still same.

Driving me nutts

Tonight I'm going to try a fresh install on a spare SSD from scratch. !again!
I'm thinking of just using all the OEM driver CD's that came with all the hardware (although old)
And without internet
And if I can I will try to keep usb sticks and burned CD's away from it.

What you think ?? anything you would advise ?
This is the only way I can think of to try it as basic as I can..
 
OK

Fresh install done, No Updates, No drivers, No nothing,
lol Seems very snapy compared to what i'v been used to !!

Anyway. . .
Dont know if best to plug network in and let it do all the MS updates first before installing all the drivers,, or the other way round ?

Regarding drivers,, was thinking of using all the oem CD's
or should I download all the latest drivers and use them from start ?

Cheers
 
Thanks Bursar

Thinking about it,,, will download the newest drivers and do them first. (hate all that realtek audio manager sound stuff)
It's not like MS dont mess anything up anyway lol

off to start downloading
 
I agree, I always download the latest drivers rather than using the ones on the cd. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you OP :)
 
Ok so far so good
All the latest drivers running now and seems to be working, no problems. still not plugged into internet.
**took an image**

now to move on. . . get it online..
Eset smart security and MS updates.

though im tempted to leave Eset till after the MS updates, *maybe not a good idea* ??
I'm just not confident about Eset the way it ties itself in to so much.
So if I leave eset off till I have all the MS updates done. that will show me for sure if its the updates thats the problem

Thanks for helping me so far, its just nice to have another view on things. incase it's me messing something up lol
 
Ok thanks Kia, will start the updates now then,,,

On a side note,,
Did you mean Eset in notorious for stability issues, or just antivirus in general ?
I would soon dump Eset if I thought it was causing problems.
 
I suspect he means that antivirus is usually the first thing people look at when there is a problem. None of them are perfect and they're all a trade-off between the increased security and the penalty to performance. If you wanted to try an alternative to Eset, you could do worse that Microsoft's own Security Essentials which is fairly lightweight, unintrusive and both free and legal. It's also not perfect - many people will say that it doesn't have the features of a full-blown internet security suite but for the price, it's excellent and it doesn't constantly whinge at you or slow your machine down to a crawl.

For what it's worth, I've also known certain Microsoft Updates cause problems with certain hardware. I've just had the joy of a Windows Server 2012 R2 update that stops it booting on certain disk controllers. The best bit is that the fix is to boot Windows - which you can't - and then install the fix. So it's probably worth taking an image before every round of Microsoft Updates and testing before the next round until you're up to date. That way you can at least narrow it down to a range of updates that could be causing the problem and then go through them one at a time. Other than that, booze. It doesn't fix it....but it helps! ;)
 
Hi Cenedd,
Thanks for for your input.

All updates downloaded, and all seems fine !!
*Took another drive image*
Next is Eset to see how it goes. . .

Starting to wonder whats going on, I have done many fresh installs and did'nt fix the problem, Though this time looks like its working so far...

Was hoping to find the problem by now,,
Not many things left to try now, well 3 in fact.

Your right about the booze lol
Naa did'nt fix it last night for me lol
 
cbr said:
Ok thanks Kia, will start the updates now then,,,

On a side note,,
Did you mean Eset in notorious for stability issues, or just antivirus in general ?
I would soon dump Eset if I thought it was causing problems.
Click to expand...

AV in general. Keep the machine as lean as possible during the testing phase.
 
You could just use Windows Defender/MSE in the interim if worried. Then once happy, switch to your AV of choice.
 
OK
after lots of images taken & restored, Lots of fiddling with drivers, lots of pulling hair, lots of coffee.

I looked back at my older images, found one that was taken just before I updated MB drivers, it works !! (though I cant use this image, long story)
So put my fresh install back on, (fresh & working) found the driver's I think caused all this, installed just the chipset drivers And bang problem is there!!

Thing is I cant seem to get them off, or Install ones I know works over the faulty ones, even used setup switch -overall
Any advise ?

these faulty drivers, I took down from a place called (station drivers)
A while ago when wanting to keep things up to date!
Well I wont be back to there again,, just stick to Asus site.

Yes I know stupid, but think I'v paid the price.
 
Hi Darel
It seemed like a good site at the time and i'm sure it is, But I wont be using it again, all this has put me off big time,
Yes I understand maybe it was a one off, but no driver should effect security like UAC this way.

Now i'm faced with putting up with it, or re installing win7.
Trouble is my version of win7 & office2010 are not retail, so afraid they wont let me activate again.

Unless someone knows if Advanced Tokens Manager works!
I was'nt sure about it but used it, so have a backup,
 
I don't know Station Drivers, but why are you using them rather than going straight to the manufacturer or chipset vendors website?

Install Windows, and then go to: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect It will detect your chipset and install the required drivers (you might need a Java install too). Get anything else you need from: http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/P8Z68V/HelpDesk_Download/

After that install your graphics drivers (with a download from AMD) and then do your Windows Updates.

Worry about the activation afterwards - you'll have a few days to sort that out.
 
Hi Bursar

That is the way I will be doing things from now on.

i'm just worried About activation on win7 and office2010

But it's ether fresh start or stick with the way things are
 
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