KFC - Downhill?

Jupiter said:
KFC is basically an overpriced inferior McDonalds. Never understand why anyone goes there.
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McDonald's is absolutely awful where I live. Tasteless fries, the nuggets have gone way downhill and the chicken strips are as generic as they come. Only the burgers are worth going to maccies for now.

KFC's main issue is the price which I why I only ever get it when there's a solid deal. Currently it's 10 hot wings, 10 fillets and 2 gravy for £12, £15.60 or something if you add on two large fries.
 
I've had to mark done KFC today because of a bait and switch "offer" they have on at the moment. A bucket of 6 pieces for £9.50, seemed fair enough. Wasn't until I got there and put it in the app basket that the offer is only valid on a total order of more than £10. What a load of balls. Went and got a curry instead.
 
Moothead2 said:
McDonald's is absolutely awful where I live. Tasteless fries, the nuggets have gone way downhill and the chicken strips are as generic as they come. Only the burgers are worth going to maccies for now.

KFC's main issue is the price which I why I only ever get it when there's a solid deal. Currently it's 10 hot wings, 10 fillets and 2 gravy for £12, £15.60 or something if you add on two large fries.
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Can agree that the nuggets are bad. But to me, the fries are pretty much the same no matter the location.

I'd say yes, KFC is better than McDonalds, but not better enough to justify the current gap in price

Quartz said:
Speaking of going downhill, my local Papa Johns has started economising on the meat.
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I think they call this 'shrinkflation'.
 
Only ever go once or twice a year now when I can get a load of chicken for a reasonable price with an offer.

16 fillets, 2 large popcorn chicken, 4 fries, 2 gravy and 2 beans for £20 last night.
 
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Quartz said:
Speaking of going downhill, my local Papa Johns has started economising on the meat.
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What annoys me about this is that they use dirt cheap ingredients and you pay a lot of money for a pizza considering the very low overall cost of the ingredients, pence in some cases.

Papa Johns charge their franchises a fortune however for the ingredients effectively adding a huge overrider onto the cost of even basic ingredients like mushrooms so the stores do cheat from time to time. I’ve seen ‘Tesco’ mushrooms in their stored which would be a ‘hanging’ offence if caught by head office.

Sadly the only people ‘profiting’ are the shareholders! Seems such a shame prices are artificially and significantly hiked just so a small subset of people can make money.
 
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Brazo said:
What annoys me about this is that they use dirt cheap ingredients and you pay a lot of money for a pizza considering the very low overall cost of the ingredients, pence in some cases.

Papa Johns charge their franchises a fortune however for the ingredients effectively adding a huge overrider onto the cost of even basic ingredients like mushrooms so the stores do cheat from time to time. I’ve seen ‘Tesco’ mushrooms in their stored which would be a ‘hanging’ offence if caught by head office.

Sadly the only people ‘profiting’ are the shareholders! Seems such a shame prices are artificially and significantly hiked just so a small subset of people can make money.
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Yea I agree, but personally I think those take away fast food pizzas, Pizza Hut, Dominos etc are pretty bad and horrendously overpriced.

I prefer pretty much any other form of fast food over pizza.
 
Pizza is very labor intensive, its expensive in the supermarkets as well compared to burgers and fries.

For the price of one decent pizza, you can buy burgers, rolls and fries for 4 people.
 
We make homemade pizza that feeds four and it's cheaper and than decent burgers (decent mince) and fries. Also when cooking for vegetarians it's just easier than faffing about buying different mince or cheap, over priced vegi burgers.

Haven't bought super market pizza in years but the last time was from Asda and it was a big, well topped pizza for like £3.50. Probably changed nowadays.

KFC gives me bad cramps so I tend to avoid chicken outlets like that
 
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Home made pizza being cheaper is fine but you aren’t paying for the labour which is by far the most expensive component of food production in a restaurant or takeaway.

Think about how quick and easy it is you can make 4 burgers from raw ingredients (5 minutes) compared to a pizza with a hand made base (at least an hour of prep time).

In reality most burgers found in restaurants and supermarkets are bought in from a supplier and made almost entirely by machine. The equipment to cook them is cheap and general purpose.

The two things have substantially different cost base and is why they are priced very differently in shops and restaurants where you have to pay for all their components.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Home made pizza being cheaper is fine but you aren’t paying for the labour which is by far the most expensive component of food production in a restaurant or takeaway.

Think about how quick and easy it is you can make 4 burgers from raw ingredients (5 minutes) compared to a pizza with a hand made base (at least an hour of prep time).

In reality most burgers found in restaurants and supermarkets are bought in from a supplier and made almost entirely by machine. The equipment to cook them is cheap and general purpose.

The two things have substantially different cost base and is why they are priced very differently in shops and restaurants where you have to pay for all their components.
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Don't all the run of the mill/cheaper pizza places buy pre made bases etc?
 
sigma said:
Don't all the run of the mill/cheaper pizza places buy pre made bases etc?
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They either buy pre made dough which they roll out or make it from scratch but they use a mixing machine and it’s not labour intensive (at all). Theres often only one person working in a pizza shop during quieter times and well one only has to ask themselves how long they have to wait for a pizza about 10 mins if your in the shop and most of that is the cooking time.

I suspect if your making pizza at home it is labour intensive but these chains have it down to a fine art with economies of scale and ergonomically designed work flows.
 
You say it’s not labour intensive (I disagree) and it’s way more labour intensive than the alternative (e.g. burgers and fries), particularly in an optimised workflow that you find in a chain takeaway.

That’s the point and that’s why it’s much more expensive. Their profit margins are also probably a bit higher because they can’t also do the volume that somewhere that sells burgers and fries because the prices are that much higher.

A McDonald’s kitchen has zero prep and will be knocking out hundreds of orders per hour at their peak and most of those orders will have multiple products on them.
 
Well, I tried KFC for the first time in years thanks to this thread - burger, piece of chicken, chips, and a drink - and the burger was decent enough but the amount of chips was minuscule.
 
I've started making my own chicken at home. Chicken breast cut into steaks, battered with a mix of flour, corn flour and spices with a bit of water. Then coated in Panko breadcrumbs. Come out so crispy when fried. Single chick breast can make two good burgers.
 
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