Kid bypassing Laptop Windows Password

You can't lock them out if they have physical access. I'm no hacker but I know you can just google how to get access and follow the instructions and get access. Did it on linux before when mum forgot her password, 5 min job. It'll be the same for windows.
 
OspreyO said:
In the old days you take their food away, and let them starve. But eventually you'd have to feed them, and the circle would continue.

I'm only here for the IT side. I have a T-Shirt for every simplistic parenting trope that will be trotted out. No offense.
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None taken my dude. From an IT side it sounds like he is ahead of the gatekeeper. Gatekeeper needs to get smart :) There are ways to lock away the fun if you have good infrastructure at the back end :) A laptop with no internet is not much fun for a kid I imagine.
 
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Vince said:
None taken my dude. From an IT side it sounds like he is ahead of the gatekeeper. Gatekeeper needs to get smart :) There are ways to lock away the fun if you have good infrastructure at the back end :) A laptop with no internet is not much fun for a kid I imagine.
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Hence the the thread for people to suggest ways.

Its impossible to remove internet access completely. Needs it for school. Once he has any access he can use Mac Spoofing, VPN, proxy sites, or even other peoples Wifi to get past any of my fences on my infrastructure.
Best I can do is throttle or and give him cruddy hardware. Or he can just download something they can play off line. Its a bit like Oliver Twist asking for more gruel.

I'm just looking something to frustrate him a bit. Also to track it.
 
OspreyO said:
Hence the the thread for people to suggest ways.

Its impossible to remove internet access completely. Needs it for school. Once he has any access he can use Mac Spoofing, VPN, proxy sites, or even other peoples Wifi to get past any of my fences on my infrastructure.
Best I can do is throttle or and give him cruddy hardware. Or he can just download something they can play off line. Its a bit like Oliver Twist asking for more gruel.

I'm just looking something to frustrate him a bit. Also to track it.
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set open windows where that mac address can browse and connect... at any other time nope... He could spoof a mac address I guess but if you have an access list etc you have a lot of control.. I have a udm pro and there is so much here to make life very unpleasant for somebody not sticking to the rules.
 
I used to run a second Wifi Network, then I switched to using a parental firewall, retired all of that and just just using the various filtering on Mesh network I have now. May have to go back to two networks.
 
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OspreyO said:
I used to run a second Wifi Network, then I switched to using a parental firewall, retired all of that and just just using the various filtering on Mesh network I have now. May have to go back to two networks.
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On a good mesh you should have many options. Im on a unifi UDM and I can see a plethora of ways to make his life hell :D
 
OspreyO said:
I'm just looking something to frustrate him a bit. Also to track it.
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So you trying to be more clever than them then? I get it.

Looks like you going to need to remove admin access first, use a hidden account.
Second change DNS to something you control. PiHole for example.
Third lockdown DNS so it can't be changed as a standard user.
Fourth limit WiFi access in the house (timed access). (this won't stop them getting on net if they have a phone with tethering though, unless you got it locked down).
Fifth, mac address filtering on home network.
Sixth, change password on router and make sure admin account password on all systems is changed.
If they get in then as admin then you need to step up your game.

If you really wanna play go implement a active directory on home network and manage all systems by group policy.
To make changes they physically going to need access to that system, lock down (no remote access).

Lock it down water tight, but you will get sick in the end, give up and just let them have access.
 
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GaryTheSnail said:
Are you trying to bypass systems somewhere? and your asking how it's generally done?

Like I said... nobody here knows how they are doing it.

Just ask the kid?
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Tell them if he tells you, you will ensure you will get them a job in tech that there's jobs going at where you work (if you work that is).

They will probably show you how it's done.
Then you can lock it down.

Simples.
 
GaryTheSnail said:
So you trying to be more clever than them then? I get it.

Looks like you going to need to remove admin access first, use a hidden account.
Second change DNS to something you control. PiHole for example.
Third lockdown DNS so it can't be changed as a standard user.
Fourth limit WiFi access in the house (timed access). (this won't stop them getting on net if they have a phone with tethering though, unless you got it locked down).
Fifth, mac address filtering on home network.
Sixth, change password on router and make sure admin account password on all systems is changed.
If they get in then as admin then you need to step up your game.

If you really wanna play go implement a active directory on home network and manage all systems by group policy.
To make changes they physically going to need access to that system, lock down (no remote access).

Lock it down water tight, but you will get sick in the end, give up and just let them have access.
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Nope none of that. I just wanted to know how he could bypass the password. Because once he can circumvent that nothing else matters. Because he can access any admin account on the machine and bypass all the above.

But you are correct on one part, only. I am sick of it. But I won't give him access. I'll just remove physical access to the machine. Eventually it will turn up. Also he can't use it if he's hiding it. He's hiding it because last time this came up I took it away for almost two months.
 
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OspreyO said:
Nope none of that. I just wanted to know how he could bypass the password. Because once he can circumvent that nothing else matters. Because he can access any admin account on the machine and bypass all the above.

But you are correct on one part. I am sick of it. But I won't give him access. I'll just remove physical access to the machine. Eventually it will turn up. Also he can't use it if he's hiding it.
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They can just use another one. You won’t stop the kid.
 
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