Soldato
if they're 8 you throw the laptop in the sea
if they're 18 you throw them in the sea
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Kid bypassing Laptop Windows Password
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if they're 18 you throw them in the sea
But you know (if you read the thread) its someone with a history of hacking devices has circumvented the W11 password before Windows loads. They haven't guessed the password.
All they need is a USB key and access to the internet on other infrastructure. What technical tools? They can't use the device normally unless they have physical access to it. So thats given. Age is irrelevant. In just mind fart from people not thinking it through. As such doesn't deserve and answer.
I wouldn't say it's a "mind fart" as it's highly relevant as you've shown, like i said no amount of security is going to prevent someone with physical access to a device from, well, accessing it.
The only thing that changes that is someone's age, the likelihood that someone will have access to what's needed increases as they get older. E.g if you locked the laptop in a hardened steel box i could just buy an angle grinder whereas a 6 year old probably couldn't.
e: No amount of 'anti-hacking' or other software based security measures will prevent someone from gaining access to a device if they have physical access to it. At best all you're doing is delaying any intrusion, using DiD to slow down any unauthorised access attempts until you physical block the persons access.
The only thing that changes that is someone's age, the likelihood that someone will have access to what's needed increases as they get older. E.g if you locked the laptop in a hardened steel box i could just buy an angle grinder whereas a 6 year old probably couldn't.
e: No amount of 'anti-hacking' or other software based security measures will prevent someone from gaining access to a device if they have physical access to it. At best all you're doing is delaying any intrusion, using DiD to slow down any unauthorised access attempts until you physical block the persons access.
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I thought changing the password would be sufficient temp measure, as has been previously.
I could just move the laptop off site. But that doesn't answer the question asked. My question wasn't how do I secure the laptop. So no age is not relevant.
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Wow, thanks. Way to miss the point and throw an insult at someone trying to help.
Like i said you're missing the point, that was an example of no matter how extreme you go with security nothing is going to stop someone with physical access to the device from accessing it and the data on it.
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Soldato
Wrap the laptop in a chain with a lock on it!
Wow, thanks. Way to miss the point and throw an insult at someone trying to help.
Like i said you're missing the point, that was an example of no matter how extreme you go with security nothing is going to stop someone with physical access to the device from accessing it and the data on it.
Hard to take steel box and angle grinders seriously. Considering it wouldn't work either. Since I have tools and even bolt cutters that could go through most locks.
Also you're answering a question I didn't ask.
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playing devils advocate here for a second... Are you looking for every password bypass method or actual solid sound advice to shut the behaviour down? One will keep the conversation going forever the other only you have the power to do.
I just wondered how it was done. That was the question asked.
As for behavior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog
I didn't mention anything about that, I was trying to keep it strictly PC. I said my bit a page back
- Anyway just shut it down, doesn't matter how you do it with tech or whatever... what you don't want though is the little blighter growing up thinking he can outsmart you every step of the way (even though he probably can)... It doesn't matter how you do it, you have to put a stop to that early doors my man!Im trying to work out how that fable is appropriate in this context? Are overlockers the scorpions, is your son the scorpion and you are the ever suffering frog? doesn't matter I guess, just interesting seeing how peoples mind work.
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Yea, no. You asked this...
And people have been telling you that the how is irrelevant because anyone with physical access to the device could use a million and one ways to bypass the laptops password, that it's not a security issue because all security does is delay unauthorised access attempts until you take more permanent measures.
If that's not the question you asked maybe you'd like be a little more specific.
Also, thanks for the apology for saying i was "thinking like a cave man".
Captain caveman rocked and you know it. Secretly you loved that.
In none of that did I asked how stop him getting access. Though someone helpfully pointed out you can bypass in Linux also.
"But I'm curious how he's getting on it." seems fairly specific.
I guess I should have said he doesn't need to brute force it.
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I didn't mention anything about that, I was trying to keep it strictly PC. I said my bit a page back
Im trying to work out how that fable is appropriate in this context? Are overlockers the scorpions, is your son the scorpion and you are the ever suffering frog? doesn't matter I guess, just interesting seeing how peoples mind work.
Hard to change someone habits if its their nature. Since "shut the behaviour down" I assume was referring to that.
Ahh I see that makes sense, if hacking stuff is in his nature though you might want to point him to some of the stories about what happens when you get caught... he thinks he is smart now... I bet Assange thought he was smart until he got caught
Not exactly on the same level as "lads I keep hacking my dads account, its hilarious' but aye it all starts somewhere! Was never an issue back in captain caveman times, life was much simpler back then.
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Then that raises the question of why you're curious, I'm not saying it's wrong to be curious but as has been said the how of it can be a million and one ways, none of which you'll be able to discern with any degree of confidence.