King's Lynn parents' cruelty arrest over obese child

Ok, so we've got the OcUK fattists here, where are the usual suspects claiming it's psychological? :D

I've never seen anyone here claim it is psychological I have seen several people say it is a complicated symptom that is caused by a variety of interlinking factors.

TBH it's the put the fork down brigade and the laws of thermodynamics quoters that come across as being a bit low on the science understanding.
 
TBH it's the put the fork down brigade and the laws of thermodynamics quoters that come across as being a bit low on the science understanding.

Yet are they not right?

Stop eating epic quantities or inappropriate foods and people will lose weight. Thus putting down the fork/shovel/trough will work. Doesn't address the underlying cause but will eliminate the symptom giving more time to work on the cause.
As for the laws of thermodynamics, they're irrefutable.

'I just don't know how I'm this size, I really don't eat a lot or any fattening foods' or the classic 'my genes make me big'.
Aye, your genes create matter from thin air. No, your genes make you want to consume more or it harder for you to burn off what's there.
 
I've never seen anyone here claim it is psychological I have seen several people say it is a complicated symptom that is caused by a variety of interlinking factors.

TBH it's the put the fork down brigade and the laws of thermodynamics quoters that come across as being a bit low on the science understanding.

Really? There was a thread just the other day where people were claiming it was psychological.

Lol. I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Granted, if his parents are bovine in size, if not diet he's really not going to stand much of a chance.

The bovine part. Wonderful imagery. :p
 
I've never seen anyone here claim it is psychological I have seen several people say it is a complicated symptom that is caused by a variety of interlinking factors.

TBH it's the put the fork down brigade and the laws of thermodynamics quoters that come across as being a bit low on the science understanding.

sure, but more so in the case of adults... lack of self control, depression, comfort eating and plenty of other factors will contribute no doubt

but when raising a kid I think there are less excuses - it is mostly bad parenting
 
Really? There was a thread just the other day where people were claiming it was psychological.

Aren't the fattists claiming it's psychological?
i.e. they are fat because they eat too much because they are mentally weak

The only ones who don't claim a psychological cause are those who believe it to be physiological - i.e. a natural propensity to retain excess weight.
 
My GFs Mum best friends Son is 12 and 17st with an heart murmur, very large child, looks like he is leaving high school not joining year 7, totally bonkers poor kid. I wonder if they are next? Deserve to be, the kid is going to be bullied and suffer for a very very long time :mad:
 
Heard on R4 earlier that the parents had said in their defence that "It's his genes".

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Yet are they not right?

To think that way is very very simplistic. It is significant component to it but to pretend it is exclusive shows a lack of understanding of how people use energy and store energy and how that for some people to actually get a plasma glucose range in an acceptably level they consequence may be that some of that input is "stolen" by the body to create fat stores rather than the overriding immediate need. That is down to chemicals caused by genes and their expression and shaping by the environment.

TBH most what most people would term as obesity when you are walking around is most likely oedema. Also high calories diets have been prevalent for quite some time without the corresponding rise in obesity. That to me suggests that it is not such an easy answer. We have a much better understanding these days of the causation so why revert back to such simplistic thinking.
 
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To think that way is very very simplistic. It is significant component to it but to pretend it is exclusive shows a lack of understanding of how people use energy and store energy and how that for some people to actually get a plasma glucose range in an acceptably level they consequence may be that some of that input is "stolen" by the body to create fat stores rather than the overriding immediate need. That is down to chemicals caused by genes and their expression and shaping by the environment.

The laws are quoted in response to people such as the parents involved in this case who try to make out it has nothing to do with their diet and exercise and is entirely a genetic issue, which is of course impossible. The laughability of it is why the laws are mentioned. It is not a lack of understanding as you seem to think.
 
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