Knife Crime
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As ever it boils down to how we deal with those caught with knives on their person. Despite what the government says about a zero tolerance policy, I genuinely believe the government has absolutely no idea what the term 'zero tolerance' actually means.
Used to live very close to Hemel and have friends there, so I also I saw on Facebook lots of outrage and calls for awareness.
I live in London now and this stuff happens everyday, I thought everybody was aware that it did if you look at national & local newspapers. So I don't think there needs to be any more awareness as if people didn't know people were carrying knifes.
The only thing that will change it is tough sentences and instant jail terms for even carrying a knife.
I live in London now and this stuff happens everyday, I thought everybody was aware that it did if you look at national & local newspapers. So I don't think there needs to be any more awareness as if people didn't know people were carrying knifes.
The only thing that will change it is tough sentences and instant jail terms for even carrying a knife.
We need more random searching (they had metal detectors and coppers in Glasgow Central a few years back stopping people searching for weapons) and higher sentences for knife carriers. The problem is so many people carry them for 'protection' from other people who are carrying them for 'protection' as well. It's just self perpetulating really and a change in belief starting with the very young is the only way to really tackle the problem.
Living in Glasgow, there is always the threat of knife crime (I believe we have the highest rate of it in the country) however I've never been subjected to it but have seen people carrying knives. I do generally believe, and I think the crime stats back this up to a point, that Glasgows high crime rate is generally localized in certain (and there are a fair few of them) areas and rarely do gang fights spill over into the other less 'gangy' areas.
I suspect the level of incidence of knife crime are a lot higher in Castlemilk than they are in Giffnock.
Living in Glasgow, there is always the threat of knife crime (I believe we have the highest rate of it in the country) however I've never been subjected to it but have seen people carrying knives. I do generally believe, and I think the crime stats back this up to a point, that Glasgows high crime rate is generally localized in certain (and there are a fair few of them) areas and rarely do gang fights spill over into the other less 'gangy' areas.
I suspect the level of incidence of knife crime are a lot higher in Castlemilk than they are in Giffnock.
How exactly would you perform targeted stop and search's without coming across as racist etc.?
Yea, that's a better way to phrase it I guess, but if you call it random (but train to do targeted) then it will keep the lefties happier. I doubt many 40 year old business men with a suit and briefcase carry knives. Though seeing neds dressing up in suits would be much better than the plastic muck they wear at the moment.
Wow, very first reply.
I think that there needs to be a realization of who carries knives and who commits knife crime.
It isn't your well healed business man, it is your white, poor, uneducated, tracksuit wearing boy (in Glasgow - different cities will see different profiling). Yes, I'm sure that there'll be some that go against this pattern and carry knives but on the whole the most likely to carry ought to be targeted.
I was searched at the train station, I was just in jeans, shirt, jacket and carrying my backpack with my university stuff in it. However, I am a young white male and statisically speaking I'm more likely to carry a knife than the 80 year old granny that walked post the coppers.
Did I mind getting searched? Did I think that it was an invasion of my civil liberty? Did I think there was anything wrong with the police taking a proactive decision to try and remove knives from the streets and punish the ones who carry them? No to all points.
I think there is a realisation, the Met for example have a dedicated unit for dealing with it.
Is there a will to really deal with the problem, I would say yes but the Police are so hamstrung with fear of the race card being played in hinders them.
Is there a will to really deal with the problem, I would say yes but the Police are so hamstrung with fear of the race card being played in hinders them.
The police/MPs dont care, its the proles getting stabbed, its been rife for years, yet sentences are still a joke, if you are caught with a knife on you, I dont see why you should not be locked up for a month, who needs to carry a knife on the streets of the UK at 1am.
Talking to them and telling people about knife crime is pointless with the youth of today, just lock them away.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15645537
Teenagers will say one thing yet do the other.