lol dude come off of it
Kyle Rittenhouse - teen who shot three people in Kenosha
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lol dude come off of it
No no, come on. Explain.
Just to point out, this is up for debate, and evidence that may show he did threaten first (in terms of raising his rifle at Rosenbaum) has been given to the jury to consider.
It is ten o'clock on a Sunday and you want me to answer a straw man argument you've posed? No thanks
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And I'm sure we'll see the reality when the verdict is delivered.
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It is ten o'clock on a Sunday and you want me to answer a straw man argument you've posed? No thanks
There's no straw-man. It would appear to use your words I've...
I've no idea why people continue to debate/argue with posters that are clearly trolling. They can't be bothered to check any of the facts in the 1st place and subsequently continually get the most basic of facts wrong about the case. They've made their mind up already and nothing will change it.
They're just here to **** the thread up, just ignore them.
They're just here to **** the thread up, just ignore them.
This is a matter of perspective. I would not say it looked like a typical firing position. In fact having watched the footage and stills, i am inclined to believe Grosskreutz's testimony (in that he didn't intentionally aim at Rittenhouse, rather that the gun was in his hand and he clumsily moved it towards him as he moved closer)
Like i have said before, i do appreciate the self defense argument BUT i think Kyle showed little understanding of the situation he found himself in after the first shooting, and in all instances showed very little restraint in carrying out the ultimate retaliation to perceived threats.
It's ok to have a difference of opinion on this. The professional legal commentary on it isn't entirely in agreement on whether he should or will escape some of the lesser second degree/reckless charges either. The intentional first degree homicide is a stupid charge though and i'd be stunned if he got found guilty of that.
LOL total cope yet again... sure he just fired a gun seconds after pointing out Kyle to Rosenbaum and it was nothing to do with Kyle... who claims he was threatened with that very same gun.
Though also worth nothing that Kyle isn't a mind reader nor does he have eyes on the back of his head, he's just been threatened with a gun (his claim) and the guy who threatened him just happened to then fire that gun behind him...
But you're totally reaching and trying to play that down as you've been reaching with various downplaying attempts all through the thread.
I already have, scroll up - you're claiming it had nothing to do with Kyle when you can't support that and you based that claim in part on your own ignorance, named a claim that the gun was fired nowhere near Kyle. I've literally provided you with a direct link to video footage with a timestamp and screenshots that show the gun was fired behind Kyle by the guy who was seconds before right next to him and following after him.
How is this not clear to you:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35237234/
Or just watch this video from 4:40 onwards, your claim that the gunshot had nothing to do with Kyle is highly dubious.
Also, sure enough, you've still not backed up your assertions re: excessive force or provided alternatives, you just ignore.
This is where my head is too. I just can't fathom why people are so vehemently in support of this absolute clown.
Ah i see, so this is all just conjecture on your part then.There is no proof that Zaminksi's shot had anything to with Kyle. Kyle is running off in a different direction by that point.
...and once again, i am not disputing that Kyle thought it might be directed towards him (it perhaps did contribute to him panicking and turning to shoot Rosenbaum). Its still completely irrelevant, as someone firing a gun in the air elsewhere, doesn't mean you can shoot someone else.
So no, it wasn't false. I said no one shot AT Kyle, and there is no proof that they did. You then weighed in about the chap that fired in the air some way away from him for some reason.
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Whether you think Kyle should have been there or not in the first place, you cant fathom defending yourself from violent attackers?
I cant fathom that attitude tbh.One of the weird results of the dubious reporting of this case is NPC type people on social media keep on repeating some nonsense about state lines, sometimes including a claim that a weapon was transported across state lines (which is pretty well known to be false) and now pivoting to just mentioning that Rittenhouse crossed state lines, as though that has some special relevance here to a case being tried in a county courtroom in Kenosha...
Dude, he came arrived with an assault rifleWhether you think Kyle should have been there or not in the first place, you cant fathom defending yourself from violent attackers?
He was literally the only person there that night that murdered anyone.LOL nope literary provided screenshots and video evidence to support it
Clearly false, don't try and change the claim afterwards, I clearly quoted what I took issue with and gave a clear explanation of why. You're in denial and deflecting yet again...
Here are two claims I took issue with, nothing to do with whether the gun was fired at Kyle or not as you're now retrospectively trying to claim:
firstly this one is total BS:
Anyone can just watch the video from 4:40 onwards and see why it's BS.
Secondly, this one is incredibly dubious/a total reach:
The gun was not fired far away and it seems very likely it was to do with Kyle, it was fired by a guy who had literally just had an encounter with Kyle, was alleged to have threatened him with the gun and claimed he was firing a "warning shot"... I mean we can wait until his trial if you like and I can re-quote your nonsense then but it's looking pretty damn likely or is a very odd coincidence and it is certainly BS to claim it is unlikely.
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I guess it is a good proxy to say he travelled a great distance from his home to a place he had no relation to (but managed to acquire an AR-15 like gun) to protect it in such a benevolent way.One of the weird results of the dubious reporting of this case is NPC type people on social media keep on repeating some nonsense about state lines, sometimes including a claim that a weapon was transported across state lines (which is pretty well known to be false) and now pivoting to just mentioning that Rittenhouse crossed state lines, as though that has some special relevance here to a case being tried in a county courtroom in Kenosha...
Good to see you posting pics like this tho - it proves your group think comes from somewhere else other than original thought.
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Dude, he came arrived with an assault rifle
OMG not an ASSAULT RIFLE!?!?!? Did he also "tAkE iT aCrOsS sTaTe lInEs"
No one else was hit in the the head with a skateboard and had a gun pulled on them either as far as I know?
That supports exactly what i said...yes.
How am i changing the claim?
My original claim literally said that no one fired AT him. That is literally what i said. Which is true.
Have you lost the plot?
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Dude, he came arrived with an assault rifle
BTW...you're wrong again. It's not an assault rifle.
I mean come on, try and get at least one of your points correct.