Kyle Rittenhouse - teen who shot three people in Kenosha
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I can't help it if you disagree with me.
As has been said, it's a complex subject and professional legal opinions are also divided on some of the lesser charges.
a lot of people are acting in here as though it's a 100% legal fact that he did no wrong and that just because he was acting in self defense, everything he did was OK. The biggest question is whether he did so in a reasonable manner.
It's not the legal issues which are up for debate and will invariably lead to a guilty verdict or a self defense verdict. It's your bat **** ascertains that you are acting in self defense by chasing someone for hundreds of meters and that a kick to the head/getting smacked in the head with a lump of wood is unlikely to be life threatening. By standing by both those points it gives less credence to any other point you make. Just admit you were wrong and move on. People are far more likely to engage with someone when they believe they are debating in good faith, which at the moment it doesn't appear that you are.
On both those points, there is nothing "insane" about them.
First of all you have misrepresented the skateboard attack in my opinion. It just looked like he clumsily had it in his hand whilst trying to suppress Kyle (likely due to him thinking he was the aggressor/an active shooter too). There is no "swing". He is holding it flat side down with one hand on one of the trucks and sort of falls/splats the flat surface on Kyle.
Seriously, watch it again. I think you've been taken in by some of the more hyperbolic rhetoric in here regarding that incident.
Second of all, yes I still maintain that after the first shooting, they thought he was an active shooter/murderer and in the panic of the moment thought confronting him and trying to disarm him was the best course of action. I mean that's literally what one of them testified to.
The skateboard 'attack' was once Kyle was established as a cold blooded murderer in the name of 'self-defence'. He LARPed hard and now he needs to lube up. Any trained armed response individual would be doing everything they could to not use their weapon.
except for the many times in the US trained people have opened fire for less aggravating circumstances ?
If love to see the armed response training you're talking about that advises letting people strike you, grab your gun and point a gun at your head before shooting them in response.
I think it's amazing that the guy with Skateboard knows 100% what happened behind the dumpsters within seconds. Considering it's taking weeks to get all the video footage and process it and witness statements in court so we have some idea and even after that we're not 100%. How did he know he was murderer when he hasn't been convicted yet either. Amazing precognition.
Fair, the US have bred a culture of LARPers/thin blue line type. You only need to look at a proud boys rally to see how hardcore they take the dress up.
Armed response people typically follow a situational awareness approach. How he got so close to a 'belligerent' just further highlights his incompetence/LARPing attitude to the whole thing.
Soldato
It's in the law.
I think you're an attention seeking person.
Or you never watch the video where the with the gun never pointed at kyle and nothing happened.
But 2 seconds later. He pointed his gun a Kyle and got shot for it.
That is self-defence.
It obviously isn't as simple as being "just the law" , hence why we have the case before a jury, and why there are so many differing legal opinions on what Kyle may be guilty of.
Like many others your turning quite a complex case into something that has a defined answer.
Lol, having a gun being pointed at you allows you to murder the person pointing the gun? Where do armed law enforcement stand on this rule?
It's the best description of what these proud boy type folk do. He reminds me of dwite schrute
Soldato
I want to know why you don't tell the truth about the guy with the gun.
You know he never aimed his gun at kyle...then he did.
It's not a complex case to me.
Idiots chased guy down a street for NO REASON.
Guy defended himself.
We will know soon what the out come is.
Soldato
Lol, having a gun being pointed at you allows you to murder the person pointing the gun? Where do armed law enforcement stand on this rule?
Yep.
That's the law for everyone.
It's called self-defence not murder.
Get something right today....
All I can say is, thank god he just so happened to have an AR-15 like device with him, on the off chance he had to defend himself. I bet the fact he had an AR-15 like device and the fact he needed to defend himself are in no way correlated
Snap, so you are saying Breonna Taylor's boyfriend was justified in his actions then?
Paints a tricky picture for a gun happy country overrun with domestic terrorists.
Soldato
All I can say is, thank god he just so happened to have an AR-15 like device with him, on the off chance he had to defend himself. I bet the fact he had an AR-15 like device and the fact he needed to defend himself are in no way correlated
You forget.
Having a AR5 in the US is nothing.
dLockers presumably thinks they a good person when they are fantasising about Kyle Rittenshouse being anally raped in prison.
And trained peole dont 'do everything' to avoid using their weapon especially when confronted with other people with firearms and people trying to assault them and potentially take their weapon because to do so is a sure route to a premature death.
They assess the circumstances and neutralise threats. Just like Kyle did contrary to the claims of him being a 'mass shooter' he tried to retreat and tried to surrender to police at the earliest opportunity and only shot thoose actively attacking him with restraint shown on the amount of shots fired.
Hilarious from the perspective of the US showing a clear lack of awareness of the relative presence of outright larping going on by the antifa types.
Lol, having a gun being pointed at you allows you to murder the person pointing the gun? Where do armed law enforcement stand on this rule?
In the circumstances Kyle was faced with it was absolutely proportional to fire to neutralise the threat and use of firearms is use of deadly force.