Lad breaks into a house and is killed...

AcidHell2 said:
Didn't say I agree. But it's what I understand the law to be in a very condensed-simplified version.

Burglary is not a minor crime, it is not nice and we rightly have a right to defend ourselves. Just a shame it doesn't go further.
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Fair play :)

@Chimerical - if it is made clear to the criminal underclass that they are putting their lives at risk by breaking into other people's homes then it will cut the number of burglaries. This can be seen from the example of the USA, where the law clearly is on the side of the home owner, not the intruder and burglaries are lower over there than they are here.
 
scorza said:
Fair play :)

@Chimerical - if it is made clear to the criminal underclass that they are putting their lives at risk by breaking into other people's homes then it will cut the number of burglaries. This can be seen from the example of the USA, where the law clearly is on the side of the home owner, not the intruder and burglaries are lower over there than they are here.
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That's the stat I was after :) I thought that would be the case.
 
semi-pro waster said:
You have the right to self defence but that does not extend to protecting your property per se, that is what has been decided by society, property is less valuable than life and rightly so, you can replace a TV but you can't replace a life.
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What if the property is life? Eg a dog? I imagine most people would kill to protect their dog.
 
I would defend my dog, wouldn't actively attempt to kill in doing so. People need to realise that the person who did the stabbing in this case was probably not trying to kill the person, the person unfortunately died as a result.

I don't think many people would think to themselves "right burglar in the house lets get my best stabber and go kill the b******"
 
Ciphon said:
I agree with what someone said about entering someones home un-lawfuly, and being prepared to fight for your life. The robber doesn't know whats behind that door when they sneak in, and take their life into their own hands.
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This is exactly where all of these arguments fall flat on their face, at least legally.

By entering the property, he consented to be stopped with reasonable force. He did not consent to death.


Volenti non fit injuria this is not.
 
I cannot believe the number of people on that page that cannot string together a sentence, or type two words without a spelling error. What do they teach in school these days, "top ten txt abbreviations", "how to type like a 4 year old" ?
 
Nitefly said:
By entering the property, he consented to be stopped with reasonable force. He did not consent to death.
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Killing someone can fall under reasonable force, as court cases have proved. So hence one should be prepared to put ones life on the line in the act of a burglary.
 
Some of them appear to be writing in code :confused:

What does: Kerry wrote at 07:07
"yo yh ya all fukin sik watchh yh ya *****"
 
I remember reading an article sometime in the last couple of years about a reporter in a small town in America. This town had basically no burglaries as every house had a gun, and the burglars knew they would get shot if they tried anything. Law is too on the side of the criminals in this country
 
Nitefly said:
This is exactly where all of these arguments fall flat on their face, at least legally.

By entering the property, he consented to be stopped with reasonable force. He did not consent to death.


Volenti non fit injuria this is not.
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He broke the law, he is taking the gamble the other person is not going to do what he did and break the law in their own life ending manner.
 
Dkore-DeX said:
If everyone stabbed every person who broke in, there would be a hell of a lot less burglars around. So in essence yes it would achieve something, also people are less likely to burgle if they feel they are going to die doing so.
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Or they would be more likely to carry a weapon while breaking into your home..Just in case you have a knife...

If they believe you are armed, they will arm themselves..
 
ROFL, the person who made this pic must be deluded !

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Emlyn_Dewar said:
And if they believe you aren't armed, they will arm themselves. They're scum burglars, not honourable fighters Robin Hooding it round the country.
Chances are they'd have a knife on them most of the time anway.
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The vast majority of bulgaries occur when nobody is home..Specifically because the burglars dont want to bump into someone..Burglary is one thing..Burglary and attempted/murder is another..

Most burglars are cowards and not looking for confrontation..Most will not be carrying weapons other than a crowbar/screwdriver or whatever they use to break in.

People who break into houses when they know people are home are not burglars. They are more than likely there to do you harm..

Burglars go in when they think nobody is home...and if by chance someone is home, they will bolt in the majority of cases.

They are less likely to bolt if the guy lunges at them with a knife the first chance he gets.
 
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