Landlady wins battle with Murdoch's Sky TV

leaskovski · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:29

stockhausen said:
In a few years, you will be old enough to go and watch matches for free

He can do that now

Glaucus · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:34

Bumhug said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15162241

That must be why they are going to high court, doesn't sound they've ruled against it yet.

imb4tman · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:36

I wonder if Sky will move to buy the rights for all European football.

Cosimo · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:36

Vonhelmet said:
It does seem an odd use of the European Court...

Well it is about being able to access and use cross border services when you are apparently in a free EU market and not have a local market (SKY) dictate on what you can and cannot access.

D83 · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:37

imb4tman said:
I wonder if Sky will move to buy the rights for all European football.

Nah they can't. Not allowed to have that much of a monopoly over aired sports.

Glaucus · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:38

simulatorman said:
Well it is about being able to access and use cross border services when you are apparently in a free EU market and not have a local market (SKY) dictate on what you can and cannot access.

Yep, it annoys me we can do pretty much what we want with physical goods. But not the same for media.

jon86 · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:42

simulatorman said:
... the Premier League/Sky will hatch an new broadcasting scheme to get over this in the very near future.

Indeed. The tendering process is apparently due to start again in 2013 and some on the BBC have surmised that the Premier League will offer a pan-European license and price it accordingly. The mainland European TV subscriptions is apparently only worth 10% (£130m) of the total amount they get from TV subs.

SexyGreyFox · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:50

Hurrah, I can now legally talk about watching English football from other countries which I've been doing for well over 20 years.
In the past I've received at least 3 emails from Mods asking me to be quiet.

Maccy · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:54

That pub probably couldn't afford to pay the normal fee because it was always empty and I'm surprised it remained in business! I used to walk past it almost every day into uni.

SexyGreyFox · 4 Oct 2011 at 13:58

Maccy said:
That pub probably couldn't afford to pay the normal fee because it was always empty and I'm surprised it remained in business! I used to walk past it almost every day into uni.

So if SKY had used their brains they could have come up with a deal like Brewery's do for all pubs who can't afford.

JamesU2005 · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:00

So wait did she win or not?

Oh Ed not again. · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:00

Maccy said:
That pub probably couldn't afford to pay the normal fee because it was always empty and I'm surprised it remained in business! I used to walk past it almost every day into uni.

Bet it won't be now, can't buy that sort of publicity.

D83 · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:01

No fine = win
Can't show matches without breaking copyright law = lose

50/50

Robbo · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:03

I'm pretty sure stockhausen fancies Rupert Murdoch, this is just his way of dealing with all those repressed feelings.

Oh, and worst 'my pub is rubbish and I have no money' court case ever.

nydryl · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:04

I quite like pubs not being able to show 3 o'clock kick-offs. Bad result.

SexyGreyFox · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:17

nydryl said:
I quite like pubs not being able to show 3 o'clock kick-offs. Bad result.

Why

pingwing · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:23

D83 said:
No fine = win
Can't show matches without breaking copyright law = lose

50/50

The ruling implies that the match its self is showable, the game of football sky do not own, but all of the surrounding stuff (pre match build up and so on) are works of sky and its breaking copyright showing that

Glorious day for European integration though (and a little irony for a very british themed pub in pomp getting away with this sort of thing).

Alpherah · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:24

nydryl said:
I quite like pubs not being able to show 3 o'clock kick-offs. Bad result.

All the pubs in Birmingham have been showing 3oclock KO's for ..well. Years.

platypus · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:29

dmpoole said:
Why

Maybe because its nice to be able to go to a pub without having to see football?

FeFiDoh · 4 Oct 2011 at 14:32

It's an odd thing this.
Doesn't mean people are going to stop going to games does it? Not everyone can afford to buy a season ticket or even manage to get a ticket to a game, then the cost of travel etc.. involved if it's not a local team or game you are wanting to see.
It ends up costing thousands in the end and is well out of the reach of most people.

I can't see this having a huge effect on their business because I wonder how many pubs will get their own boxes/dishes set up, not everyone will be wanting to go to a pub to watch it and not everyone has their own dish at home.