Large Hadron Collider

what ever happened with this. did they actually find the Higgs Boson Particle

There was an electrical fault which caused a few problems (explosive expansion of the helium coolant) and delayed it a whole lot. Should be starting back up in September though. And no, they haven't actually done any collisions yet.
 
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There was an electrical fault which caused a few problems (explosive expansion of the helium coolant) and delayed it a whole lot. Should be starting back up in September though. And no, they haven't actually done any collisions yet.

thanks. it would be good for more updates on this. since they kicked up a fuss so much about it on the news about us going to die from black hole
 
It fires particles head on at the speed of light, when they collide the energy created is on a level thought to be that of the big bang and thus the materials that are created from this energy are collected by various receivers with a hope to be analysed and new findings to be emerged!
 
thanks. it would be good for more updates on this. since they kicked up a fuss so much about it on the news about us going to die from black hole

Don't worry that won't happen :p

Statistically, the likelihood of this happening is in the same ballpark as that of an ice cube forming spontaneously in your kettle when you turn it on :)

Basically, it's forbidden by the second law of thermodynamics!
 
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thanks. it would be good for more updates on this. since they kicked up a fuss so much about it on the news about us going to die from black hole

That made for a good section in Mock The Week, but it's not going to happen unless quite a bit of current scientific understanding is very wrong indeed. If the LHC makes a black hole, it will be extremely small. Black holes that small probably evaporate so quickly that they don't gave any effect on anything. Naturally occuring collisions in the upper atmosphere might also have been creating black holes for the last few billion years, as the energy levels are similar to those in the LHC (if it works) and the Earth is still here. Besides, a miniature black hole created by ramming particles together will easily be moving fast enough to escape the Earth's gravitational field even if the relevant theories are very wrong and it somehow becomes stable. So it would just fly off into space anyway. Even if it went straight through the Earth on the way, we wouldn't notice. It might, just might, pick up a particle or two on the way, but it's so small that it would probably pass straight through.

Although maybe the sun might be enough to trap it. Hmm...my physics isn't up to the job. Does anyone know if a black hole created by the LHC could be trapped by the sun if it happened to go in that direction? In the rather unlikely event of it existing for more than a miniscule fraction of a second.
 
That made for a good section in Mock The Week

Considering that Dara Ó Briain holds a degree in Theoretical Physics that section could have been a hell of a lot better. Actually, I reckon it may have been for the studio audience but just got chopped down to fulfull the BBC's required timeslot for broadcasting.
 
This thing even wroking yet ? :(

Latest news:

Geneva, 30 April 2009. The 53rd and final replacement magnet for CERN's1 Large Hadron Collider (LHC) was lowered into the accelerator's tunnel today, marking the end of repair work above ground following the incident in September last year that brought LHC operations to a halt. Underground, the magnets are being interconnected, and new systems installed to prevent similar incidents happening again. The LHC is scheduled to restart in the autumn, and to run continuously until sufficient data have been accumulated for the LHC experiments to announce their first results.

From: http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2009/PR06.09E.html
 
A basic consequence of string theory. Look it up.




:rolleyes:

For one thing, I said "what seems the most likely scenario", so don't get anal about 'absolute proof'.

As for "c'mon, there's got to be more evidence to start stating things" and "nowhere near proven"; you consider a near-complete theoretic framework, being worked on by thousands of the best minds around the world, with tens of thousands of academic publications to be "not worth mentioning?"

We know that the two theories we have to describe the 4-dimensional universe we live in are incompatible. We know that we need to account for higher-dimensions in order to couple mavity with the other three basic forces. We know that to obtain direct observations of the behavior of higher dimensions, in order to PROVE the theoretical framework correct, will take more energy than we can currently generate. There is no proof because we do not yet have the tools powerful enough and sensitive enough to probe the small lengthscales and high-energies required. This is the whole reason that we build devices such as the LHC.

Just because you don't understand something, or don't want to believe it, doesn't mean you should become a luddite.

Stop criticising things you don't understand, and try to find me even the basics of just one theory of quantum mavity which DOESN'T have mavity existing in higher dimensions. If you're convinced it does not exist, and that you know better than the entire theoretical physics comuinity, then go prove it. Otherwise shut up.

didnt see this last time round.

here you go, :rolleyes:.

I didnt criticise anything apart from your jumping the gun.
 
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