Largish Family Car - SUV?

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Hi folks,

Tempted to swap the E43 in. I've had a good time with it, and I am happy to keep it - just testing the waters on larger cars. The boot became a limiting factor on a large road trip even with 1 kid; so with two I could do with "stacking ability" [i.e. hatchback shape]. Just browsing AT and can see some quite fun ideas...

E.g.
Maserati Levante

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Range Rover Mid-Fat (2.0 PHEV)

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Range Rover Velar

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Stelvio :cool:

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X3M (not sure it is big enough?)

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F-Pace SVR (front runner so far?)

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GLE

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XC90

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Edit: X5 45e

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Any thoughts? I don't really want to pay more than 15k over what I can get for the E43 which is approx. 25k according to Motorway. Insurance on the E43 is creeping up for some reason, too.

Reliability is my number 1 - although I mainly/almost exclusively do motorway miles. I use the Pug e2008 for around town.
 
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[TW]Fox said:
Is there really much space in these? They are usually shorter than the equivalent estate car.
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That's kind of a perk though, the E43 is like a yacht on my tiny drive.

Dis86 said:
Whys the x3m on that list? Smaller than what you have now.
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Fun factor + couldn't afford X5m and the only ones in my price range were 45e's and 50ds. I do like the look of them though.

Edit: Insurance on the XC90 is pretty low. This may be a winner as I hear they are pretty reliable too?

Edit2: I also always liked the Lexus Rx but think the CVT may be a deal breaker. Is it as bad as I think it may be?
 
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xs2man said:
I mean, they all have big brutes of engines there. But I would be most tempted by the Volvo despite probably being the least exciting on that list. I do also like that Range Rover though.
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Yeah it's annoying but that's the way* I'm leaning too. Cheapest insurance, too...

GarethSouthgate said:
Panamera? Too expensive? Macan? (Audi in a frock?)
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Macan in budget but too small. Pana too long.
 
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Ah fair. Pana doesn't fit the bill at all. As long as they aren't longer than the e43 I'm happy.

Going to try and get a seat in an XC90 I think. Hoping it's gash as I'd rather the SVR, but if it's nicer and substantially cheaper to run, it could be a winner.

Although I was thinking X5 is a bit easier to find. Most XC90s seem to be across the border in the frosty norffff.
 
Yaayuh! said:
The F-Pace SVR interior looks like a blood-bath.
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Yeah they are proper gash. My boss has a brand new Sport SVR with the white seats. Aweful styling.

Spleen Sauce said:
Tesla Model Y? £30k gets you a very decent one now and it’s peanuts to run if you’re charging at home etc. Big boot and easy to live with.
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Tempted but it feels a bit sacrilege. Disco5 is interesting - I'd only ever buy a JLR new though I think.
 
Since when did Mazda's have BMW's gear too? Thought it looked familiar. It is even called "Mi-Drive" lol.

Edit: this is the current favourite I think. Slightly out of budget........

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[TW]Fox said:
I'm not sure I'd want a massive 4x4 with a 2 litre 4 cylinder engine regardless of how much electric assistance there is. This is one you definitely need a proper test drive of to decide for yourself as I just can't see how the power delivery of that will fit the luxury style of the car.
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Yeah I agree. I convinced myself the F Pace would be a fun thing but it was a wallowy under powered thing, even in the 300hp trim.

What is the go-to six cylinder BMW SUV?

Edit: I see both the 45e and the 40i are the B58. I think that is what I am most interested in now. There is much more stock available vs. the XC90, too. I don't really need the battery component so I am tempted to focus on 40i's. Might take a ride around next week as I am off work.

Would appreciate any instructions on what to look for :D.

200sols said:
Buy a V90 and use the savings to put solar on your house. Estates are better anyway :p
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Hah, yeah, my dad would be turning in his grave. He loved a good estate and we had some fun ones over the gears (Focus Estate being god tier; and then he went for a crazy underpowered MG ZT-T for his final car). It was a lovely spacious barge though.

I was tempted by an RS4 but Audi's just seem to really turn me off...

Edit: I think with BMW my budget is landing squarely in COVID-era cars :(

Could push for something like this. Odd options on this one:

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Getting too high now:

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GarethSouthgate said:
Why do you insist on a Chelsea tractor? :-/
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I've never had one before - and I can see the appeal w.r.t getting in and out easily. I need an estate style-boot, but I don't quite fancy an estate. It may be folly but the lower glass makes them quite an insecure place to leave a bag with a laptop and gear in too. I've had a few colleagues lose their rear windows parked in London in 3 and 5 series estates as it's such a quick grab and run. I'm not saying the X5 is immune but at least height is on it's side.

I think X5 40i is the favourite so far - I will try and get a drive in one. The 45e is more complicated and about £200 more expensive to insure.
 
jpaul said:
cool electric front - ID buzz - renaissance of the MPV, can't get more family / DIY palette in the back at jewsons, friendly
arteon tyoe R estates aren't too long, also exclusive, not a R6 though

.. a tall vehicle like an SUV out front on your house works, though.
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Haha I was hoping the Buzz would hit my salsac scheme but it hasn't yet. Master plan was an Alphard.

I'll check out the Arteon, although I am not the biggest fan of VW.
 
Tinders said:
No love for a LR defender, or are they daft expensive?
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I LOVE the new defender and would love a 110. They are just silly money. I still get my late fathers privilege discount - the 5.0 is "only" 425p vs. 500 odd on the 90 and 130 wheelbase, and £1300/mo with a £5k discount. Doable but not sensible :cry:

350hp diesel is £780/mo with a £5k discount so also doable but not sensible. I was so glad to "sans" car payment when the E43 got cleared, so it'd be daft to go back to that situation without good reason.

jigger said:
I’d definitely consider the Mazda cx60. It’s quite a thing.
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I do like the look of them - just wasn't sure about drivetrain. They are a bargain compared to the rest on the list. My closest dealer is a Mazda too...

Martynt74 said:
Also unsure if it's a bit too small, but the new Toyota Rav4 seems a size bigger than i expected. I always thought it was the same platform as the Lexus NX but it seems bigger.

Could probably get a brand new hybrid one in budget too, and they're doing some pretty good finance deals.
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Dunno man, feels a bit meh. Probably tainted because my FIL has one and he's a jerk.
 
Martynt74 said:
As a boring option. Could you consider just sticking a roofbox onto a regular hatch style saloon?

That gives you the storage space you want for the occasions you need it for road trips etc, but without all the day to day downsides a bigger car might bring?
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Yeah had that chat to midwife appointment earlier. A bit of it is itchy feet I think. I LOVE the E43. It makes me happy every time I get in it. I've had it for the longest of any cars I've owned though (well, maybe, apart from the Fiesta that was in my family from 2002-2012).

It wasn't quite roof box - but I realised I could equip every destination with an Amazon delivery of everything too big to transport for a much lower cost :D
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
This was made for you and you man jobs @dlockers

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You understand this puts you on par with jp right? :cry: :cool::D


jpaul said:
cool electric front - ID buzz - renaissance of the MPV, can't get more family / DIY palette in the back at jewsons, friendly
arteon tyoe R estates aren't too long, also exclusive, not a R6 though

.. a tall vehicle like an SUV out front on your house works, though.
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mjt said:
An Audi Q7 fits the bill here.. Doesn't need to be the SQ7 although V8 FTW. Option of 7 seats and the towing & carrying capacity are huge.
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I did have a look at SQ7 when you suggested. It reminded me of when I loaded a TV into one when I worked warehouse - man that thing looked badass. I couldn't find one that wasn't diesel in budget though?
 
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