late payments

Iraklis F.C. · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:04

right , the situation is like this. I work in a small-medium firm as an engineer. The boss for the last year is giving us a hell of a time and is always , i mean a month and a half late approximately , handing late our wages. And on top of that we have no word on whats going on with the wages and if and when are we going to get paid , no word whatsoever! :mad:

now i am not sure if the boss or the bosses have any obligation for letting us know when are we going to get paid , but FFS we have bills to pay and need to make plans etc.

now , i know my boss for 3-4 years and he is a very fine person , but these events lately have made me mad. I woke up in the morning and i feel like being drawn to slavery

how should i make him clear that i cannot put up this any longer , give me any ideas

G|mp · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:05

Erm speak to him maybe :confused:

Iraklis F.C. · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:06

its obvious i will speak to him , but have no idea how to start and how to tell.

G|mp · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:07

How about

Can you let us know when we are likely to get paid in future as we all have bills
to pay and plans to make

vanandjuanunited · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:08

Do you not have an employment contract?
Tell him you need to make repayments and therefore need a regular salary payment ie monthly

JohnnyG · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:08

Have you got a contract of employment?

SaBBz · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:09

G|mp said:
How about

Can you let us know when we are likely to get paid in future as we all have bills
to pay and plans to make

[OT] Why do you never write full lines? You always half half of the sentence on the next line down[/OT]

Iraklis F.C. · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:10

i am on a contract of employment but i would like not to take legal actions against him, i will leave this as a last option

JohnnyG · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:11

You don't need to take legal action, just remind him of the payment terms in your contract.

vanandjuanunited · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:12

Well tell him he has two options

1 Pay you as per your contract
or
2 See ya in court.

Its his decision.

Is the business having financial problems?

Iraklis F.C. · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:15

well it does face some sort of financial problems but it does because of some stupid decisions on buying equipment...shouldnt they make sure we get paid first and then sort out equipment/machinery needs? :rolleyes:

vanandjuanunited · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:16

Not if the employees dont complain.

JohnnyG · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:16

Only if you let them, which at the moment you're doing

G|mp · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:31

SaBBz said:
[OT] Why do you never write full lines? You always half half of the sentence on the next line down[/OT]

To make it fit a bit better on the page

If i hadnt enter'ed down on that line it would have had one word
on the next line down which looks messy in my
opinion

Iraklis F.C. · 30 Mar 2006 at 10:35

has anyone else been in the same situation ? has he/she achieved anything by having a chat with the boss ?

a1ex2001 · 30 Mar 2006 at 12:13

I've had a few friends in similar situations and most of them have very quickly been without a job. Failure to pay the staff is normally a sign of some serious financial problems. If I were you I'd have a word with the boss and keep my ear to the ground for a new job.

manveruppd · 30 Mar 2006 at 12:24

SaBBz said:
[OT] Why do you never write full lines? You always half half of the sentence on the next line down[/OT]

It's to make his posts

look less like

spam.

/spam

If the business is having financial problems it's best to corner the guy and get him to level with you all, because if you're about to need new jobs you should at least know it. It might actually be best to jump ship before it sinks (like a stinking rat

).

Iraklis F.C. · 30 Mar 2006 at 12:47

how can a comapny be in a serious financial crisis and still be able to buy software worth of tens of thousands of €? :rolleyes:

they need a punch me thinks

[DOD]Asprilla · 30 Mar 2006 at 13:09

Iraklis F.C. said:
how can a comapny be in a serious financial crisis and still be able to buy software worth of tens of thousands of €?

That depends if they have paid for it yet, or if it is on credit.

Paying you late might mean that they have cash-flow issues rather then a lack of capital.

Either way it isn't the best idicator of finacial strength or planing.

If there is no financial problem then it's an indicator of how much you are valued.

manveruppd · 30 Mar 2006 at 13:12

I'm told this is more usual than you might think: companies invest in new equipment/premises/whatever knowing they don't have the money, and then try to save it by paying their staff late. If you don't stand up for your rights he'll keep treating you like slaves. It's likely that he's going to reply with the "Oh I know it's not right paying you guys late, but I justs didn't wantto have to let any of you go so I didn't have a choice". I've heard that one used before - guilt-tripping you and threatening you at the same time that he's going to start laying people off if you all insist on getting paid on time.