Laurence Fox

Whatever - you're not making any sense to me so I'll leave it here.
The thing is people are trying to make racism just about calling someone the N word. Thats not what racism is only about. Racism is also belittling a race for something. Just like complaining about black history month. What is that about?
 
The thing is people are trying to make racism just about calling someone the N word. Thats not what racism is only about. Racism is also belittling a race for something. Just like complaining about black history month. What is that about?
I think the ‘complaint’ (not mine) is that ‘black history’ is simply ‘history’ and therefore does not merit its own month of publicity, nor should ‘white history’ or anything else like that.

I disagree with that complaint, mostly. Arguments like that only tend to work in a vacuum where humans are 100% perfect and sympathetic towards each other. Which isn’t our reality.

Those offended by the idea of ‘black history’ should relax their position, acknowledge that the ‘event’ is felt to be of great important to many and perhaps engage with it.

Those who promote black history month should do so freely but do so in an inclusive manner, with a view to breaking down barriers rather than inadvertently bolstering them by alienating people. Which as far as I can see is how it is being done anyway.

Why can’t everyone be as reasonable as me, basically.
 
You didnt try at all. You just want it to be how you want it too and wont take it any different. What is wrong with black history month? What harm does it do?
Assuming you mean Lawrence Fox's comments of Sainburys and Black History Month. My understanding is that he wasn't arguing that it shouldn't be celebrated, he was arguing against the idea of safe spaces within stores for black employees only. I think calling this segregation is obviously pretty hyperbolic but there should probably be a conversation about what exactly they were trying to achieve. What exactly do black people need to be made safe from? This seems a bit like pandering to me and frankly a bit weird in the year 2020. Perhaps there was more to this idea that I'm missing.
 
Black History month wouldn’t be worth a week if it didn’t include all the terrible things those white ******* did once they’d purchased the Africans that other Africans sold them.
Im sorry but what is your point there really?
Assuming you mean Lawrence Fox's comments of Sainburys and Black History Month. My understanding is that he wasn't arguing that it shouldn't be celebrated, he was arguing against the idea of safe spaces within stores for black employees only. I think calling this segregation is obviously pretty hyperbolic but there should probably be a conversation there about what exactly they were trying to achieve. What exactly do black people need to be made safe from? This seems a bit like pandering to me and frankly a bit weird in the year 2020. Perhaps there was more to this idea that I'm missing.
How about not getting random strangers sending them bananas while in Wetherspoons without people saying he should have just sucked it up for a start?

Are you talking about Fox declaring a boycott of Sainsburys because of some imagined affront to his whitism? Come on think about what you are saying and what is being complained about. Fox declared a boycott of Sainsburys for gods sake. Are those not the same actions that would have got you wound up if some sort of antifa said it?
 
Im sorry but what is your point there really? Is it that that month would be filled up with all the injustices that black people ahve faced
How about not getting random strangers sending them bananas while in Wetherspoons without people saying he should have just sucked it up for a start?

Are you talking about Fox declaring a boycott of Sainsburys because of some imagined affront to his whitism? Come on think about what you are saying and what is being complained about. Fox declared a boycott of Sainsburys for gods sake. Are those not the same actions that would have got you wound up if some sort of antifa said it?

That was obviously a racist incident and am happy to disavow that kind of action. The guy is a cretin and I have no problem calling that a racist incident. I just don't see the leap from that to a supermarket making safe spaces in their stores.

I don't actually agree with Fox calling for a boycott. I bought shopping from Sainburys on Sat. And no I wouldn't care if Antifa did something similar. I'm more concerned with their continued use of violence, looting, arson etc.
 
That was obviously a racist incident and am happy to disavow that kind of action. The guy is a cretin and I have no problem calling that a racist incident.
You know why **** like that happens? Because many people just let thinly veiled racism go unchallenged.

You may not agree with Fox calling a boycott but I gaurantee you that there will be a lot of idiots that look at his comments and say yeah he has a point. Look at the big picture. The man is a rabble rouser at this point and its dangerous. He is as bad or not worse than what he is arguing against.
 
You know why **** like that happens? Because many people just let thinly veiled racism go unchallenged.

You may not agree with Fox calling a boycott but I gaurantee you that there will be a lot of idiots that look at his comments and say yeah he has a point.
Whilst that may be true for some, the UK is one of the places where you will find the MOST people challenging incidents of racism. The UK is frequently cited as the least racist country in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Europe
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/britain-one-of-least-racist-countries-in-europe/26/02/

It's not perfect sure but compared to what?
 
Whilst that may be true for some, the UK is one of the places where you will find the MOST people challenging incidents of racism. The UK is frequently cited as the least racist country in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Europe
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/britain-one-of-least-racist-countries-in-europe/26/02/

It's not perfect sure but compared to what?
From your article.

“Even though only a small minority is prejudiced, in a large population that still makes many people – enough to show up in anti-immigrant demonstrations or to mobilise letter-writing campaigns to MPs.”
As this new leftist cult brigade have many similarities to religious nut jobs, the worst kind are the born again ones, eh Tony?
Waht?
 
What is your point? That a small percentage when multiplied by the population equals a large number?

I'll ask again. Compared to what?
Im not being funny but well, what was your point?

The problem is people like Boris, farage, Fox et al trying to make what they think are either factual or just humous digs at race, religion and 'wokism'. It might be a small number but it is pretty mainstream.
Britain’s top lawyers have written to Priti Patel to express their concern after a knifeman threatened to kill an immigration solicitor last month in an attack colleagues say was directly motivated by comments made by the home secretary.

On 7 September a man with a large knife entered a London law firm and launched a “violent, racist attack” that injured a staff member before the assailant was overwhelmed.

A confederate flag and far-right literature were allegedly found in a bag he was carrying. According to documents about the incident, police described the knife as a “weapon designed to cause serious harm”.

Days before, on 3 September, Patel dismayed the legal profession by claiming “activist lawyers” were frustrating the removal of migrants.

Patel appears not only to have ignored its concerns but doubled down on her attacks against immigration lawyers.

Last Sunday, almost a month after the knife attack, Patel used her speech at the Conservative party conference to target “do-gooders” and “lefty lawyers,” claiming those who represented asylum seekers were “defending the indefensible”.

Two days later, in his keynote speech, Boris Johnson went even further, claiming the entire criminal justice system was “being hamstrung by lefty human rights lawyers”. It remains unclear to what extent, if any, the PM was aware of the knife attack.
 
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Whilst that may be true for some, the UK is one of the places where you will find the MOST people challenging incidents of racism. The UK is frequently cited as the least racist country in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Europe
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/britain-one-of-least-racist-countries-in-europe/26/02/

It's not perfect sure but compared to what?
Tony believes that only white people can be racist (which shows his complete ignorance of anything outside of his little bubble). Apparently you are also a signed up member of the KKK if you have some questions about the need for a "Black History Month" and by extension of that having it shoved in your face by corporations, rabble rabble racist racist hurp derp.
 
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