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I think there is potential for Hecarim going solo top but its difficult to say how viable he is compared to the Yorick, Udyrs etc. I had a quick bish bash of him and it not really my sort of thing.

I played him as a tanky dps. I started with the standard cloth armour and 5 health pots. Then when I recalled I went merc treads, Wriggles. Then with the standard tri force. Wanted more survieability so I went with a frozen heart and force of nature. Then finished with hexdrinker but didn't get to finish the maw of whatever it called.

Not the most ideal build but was the only one I knew of for solo top lane besides the atmogs route.
 
MoNkeE said:
I like playing Support as Lulu. Any tips or tricks as to how to play her? :)
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I max E first, take exhaust and CV, get boots of mobility (key for map coverage warding).

Early game I harass and harass from the bushes and if the enemy is agressive I hang way behind my carry because all you gotta do with Lulu is continue to pop your utility abilities on your carry making it easy to stay back.
Lulu is ganked super easy because of her slowness hence the boots of mobility.

Item wise I go with a classic/general support build. Philo stone, hear of gold, shurelias, aegis and always have 5 wards on every trip back.

Q is great for the slow, I max it last. W I tend to use more the for squirrel transform over the speed + AP buff. Though I use W on myself a lot for escaping in conjunction with the Q slow.

Her ult is great when you see a teammate intiating such as Malphite or Noc or Jax or anyone with a good initiate that gets them right in there in the middle of everything.

I still prefer Janna though.
 
ive seen it all now...

hecarim jungler that built sheen as his first item.... he never tried to gank lanes and he ended the game 1/7 ...
 
mcknight said:
No actually Gareth, the majority of the things he said are the normal troll hyperbole used by anyone who wants to moan about the game while everything else was simply not true. Hence my comment asking him to clarify his complaints, because as of right now he's just trolling (given that was his first post in this thread).

Anything else?
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Troll I name thee!

You have a most curious definition of trolling, given he was expressing an opinion, and the excessive responses were 'You really have no clue.' and 'Care to make any relevant points?'. His post was about the game and yours and EJs were just insults, and you accuse him of trolling? You did not need to respond to him. A simple 'sorry to see you go' or 'fair enough its not for everyone' would suffice. Instead, you respond with aggressive posts, and go on to a lengthy, wordy, tl;dr post about how all his opinion is wrong and you are right. You are now trading posts with the original poster using language such as 'laughable' and 'retarded', because his opinion on the game is different to yours.

In the end, i did not leave this game because of the game itself, i left because of the community.*

*NOT talking about the mumbles server here, tals. I really appreciate you running that server and did have genuinely enjoyable times, thank you :)
 
arknor said:
ive seen it all now...

hecarim jungler that built sheen as his first item.... he never tried to gank lanes and he ended the game 1/7 ...
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Sheen is a very good item for Hec. His Q is like Skarner's, i.e. you spam it. Having your next auto attack do 100% of your AD as bonus damage is nice. The AP isn't great but it does at least do something with your W and Hec has really bad mana problems without blue buff, so the mana is nice.

It also builds into triforce, which is awesome.
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
Well, Riot have been looking at it.
Honestly the effect on the meta would be minimal, as there are very few tactics which rely on Flash (Maybe Fiddle and Kata would need balancing again?). As I said before, it's a 'get out of fail free' card, no matter how undeserving the player is.
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In a lot of games now, the guys I play with (myself included) and people we have been playing against actually use Flash as an aggresive tactic. It can be surprising how well it works when used in this way. I tend to find now flash is used 50/50 in terms of aggresiveness/escape tool whereas when i first started playing it was 99% used as an escape tool.

I'll disagree that untargetable attacks raise the skill cap, because there is no skill involved in using them.
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Of course their is unless you factor using certain skills at certain times isn't a skill?


By that logic, all melee DPS should have untargetable ultis?
I don't have an issue with being able to hit 5 people with the ulti, but the lack of skill to use the ulti effectively does bother me.
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I disagree that there is a lack of skill to use it effectively. Some champs have ults where all you have to do is click on the said character and they are activated and effective (Garen, Malzahar, Mordekeiser to pick some random champs). Now while there is arguably no 'skill' in landing these ulti's I still think there is a skill in using those ults at the correct time. Then there is those champs with ults that are skill shots and need to be landed (Fizz, Sona, Ashe). So with Fiora, while it is easy enough to land it (you only have to click the champ) the timing of that ultimate could be very important to the outcome of a fight which IMO demonstrates the skill of a certain player.

Tactics would immediately adapt to take advantage of the slot, and potion / ward usage would increase in late game.
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Ward useage may increase yes, potion use wouldn't as currently they are pretty much useless at a late game level.

I think with adding in this slot you take away the varying gameplay that occurs late game. Currently as it is, without a ward slot, a player who wishes to carry on warding late game is going to be sacraficing a vital item slot for wards. This leaves them weaker than their counterpart player who is building full items, but provides his team with a much better map advantage. It is then down to the teams to use these advantages to their maximum making the gameplay variable. It might not be a massive variable, but compared to having a ward slot where both teams constantly have wards and full builds, that variable is taken away as no one is risking items over wards.
 
ThomBassmonkey said:
Sheen is a very good item for Hec. His Q is like Skarner's, i.e. you spam it. Having your next auto attack do 100% of your AD as bonus damage is nice. The AP isn't great but it does at least do something with your W and Hec has really bad mana problems without blue buff, so the mana is nice.

It also builds into triforce, which is awesome.
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it might build into triforce but for jungle its a poor item and it showed in the amount the guy had to recall.
 
MoNkeE said:
Lulu was F2P last week and I've only just started playing, hence why I've taken a shining to her. I currently use the highest ranked guide on www.mobafire.com. When you say you max out E first, I assume you still put your first point in to Q, then E, then W?

As I said, proper n00b =)
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Nope, E first, then W, then Q. Stay away from mobafire if you're still a proper n00b. Much better guides on solomid.net. Thing is, even with the guides, you have to learn from your own experience how to adapt your build depending on the situation for a given game/part of a game.

Are you playing her as a support?
 
Yeah playing as support. How much harrassing can you do without Q for so long, or would you just suggesting using the auto attack? I normally find having Q early for poking/harrassing quite useful.......?
 
MoNkeE said:
Yeah playing as support. How much harrassing can you do without Q for so long, or would you just suggesting using the auto attack? I normally find having Q early for poking/harrassing quite useful.......?
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The E is more useful as it can be used on the enemy, or yourself or your carry who should be with you. Remember when you shield yourself or your carry, Pix will auto attack when you/the carry attacks.

When I say I harass a lot, I mean a lot for a support, which isn't too much....just enough to be a nuisance, not so much you're out of manna every 2 minutes. half the time is spent re-warding the lane, tri bush, side bush.
 
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I'll give that a whirl if I get on tonight then :)

I'm on EU West I think, summoner name is LoveableWalrus. Normally play with the bird I'm seeing tho, but always up for a game if she's not around and you fancy looking after a noob.
 
MoNkeE said:
I'll give that a whirl if I get on tonight then :)

I'm on EU West I think, summoner name is LoveableWalrus. Normally play with the bird I'm seeing tho, but always up for a game if she's not around and you fancy looking after a noob.
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I love looking after noobs, makes me take the game more lightly. Plus I'm a ****** player for a non-noob. My summoner name is ****ForBreakfast without the *

*Fully star out all swear words.*
 
arknor said:
it might build into triforce but for jungle its a poor item and it showed in the amount the guy had to recall.
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I like it, I build Mandred's Razor and generally MR boots first then go straight for triforce. What item I get first depends on the game, but I don't have problems with going back a lot if I go for the Sheen. :) It's arguable whether it's better than either of the other parts of a triforce, they are all good for Hec (obviously zeal is good because of the movement speed and he has no persistant slow so phage is good for ganks). Sheen definitely gives the best burst out of the 3 parts though.
 
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