Leicester sweatshops

[NVP]

It is abysmal that a few employers in this country think that they can work like a third world country and expect to get away with it.

I think i may be slightly desensitised to the situation, as I can feel more discomfort and outrage from this thread than I would expect.

For immigrants with little education or legal status there are few ways to make money. Most of the elder women in my family worked in textile factories here in the UK - exploited by the business owner (who, at the end of the day, was also an immigrant) they were still happy to work and did so without complaint as it was still better conditions than back in India. Unfortunately now, where India has progressed, these sweatshops have not.

 

[i-bert]

I'm not sure I understand the outrage, who is covering up what and how is it similar to the Rotherham scandal?

It's similar as that there are massive human rights abuses taking place, that everyone knows about yet nothing is being done. And yes, there is no outrage by those tearing down statues of people linked with slavery hundreds of years ago, and this is happening today.

 

[NVP]

Just so you're aware:

Leicester textile factories - no one is being held against their will, they are being paid a wage lager than that in their home country.


Nail bars - lots of Vietnamese trafficked directly for this purpose, no wage and unable to leave until criteria are met.



Perspective needs to be gained about what you're referring to as slavery.

 

[VincentHanna]

Just so you're aware:

Leicester textile factories - no one is being held against their will, they are being paid a wage lager than that in their home country.


Nail bars - lots of Vietnamese trafficked directly for this purpose, no wage and unable to leave until criteria are met.



Perspective needs to be gained about what you're referring to as slavery.

It appears to mainly be another swipe at BLM from the OP, rather than genuine concern.

 

[NVP]

Yes I know, and that is the problem as he may not be willing to level up but his nonsense may prevent a younger, more impressionable person from levelling up.

That is why i asked him the specific question so I could put some information and knowledge into this thread, in the hope of expanding this simplistic view.

 

[Hagar]

I think i may be slightly desensitised to the situation, as I can feel more discomfort and outrage from this thread than I would expect.

Perhaps it is the fact that certain areas of the country remain in lockdown. Certain other areas are likely to reenter a form of lockdown and they all share a similar demographic. However this lockdown does not really bother the people exploiting those with little education or having dubious status. They will live outside the town and avoid the restrictions. All of the other residents of all demographic backgrounds are affected, their livelihoods, their family life and there well being. So I am all for putting them out of business, for the greater good and to hopefully make stuff more expensive online and maybe bring some business back to the high streets.

 

[Dis86]

Just so you're aware:

Leicester textile factories - no one is being held against their will, they are being paid a wage lager than that in their home country.


Nail bars - lots of Vietnamese trafficked directly for this purpose, no wage and unable to leave until criteria are met.



Perspective needs to be gained about what you're referring to as slavery.

They might not be forced to work there but they rely in the money and so are tied to the job.You're then neglecting the fact that their families may be at risk if they speak up about the poor pay and conditions. It's a disgraceful situation and the fact that it's seemingly known about by local, regional and national government is even worse. It begs the question of why nothing is being done?

 

[Hagar]

To add, it is not only those of South Asian heritage, it is Bulgarians, Romanians and other people's with a very low national income who export people to work in exploitative conditions for a little money while the gang masters do all right out of it. If we can get convictions on such as these, that can be permanently excluded from the UK.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

They might not be forced to work there but they rely in the money and so are tied to the job.You're then neglecting the fact that their families may be at risk if they speak up about the poor pay and conditions. It's a disgraceful situation and the fact that it's seemingly known about by local, regional and national government is even worse. It begs the question of why nothing is being done?

Because the local councillors won’t get re-elected if they speak out. That’s assuming they’re not from said community and therefore think it’s okay. Police turn a blind eye as they’ll be branded racist oppressors if they get involved and the local community leaders will kick off.

That’s a totally Labour area could be a factor.

 

[i-bert]

It appears to mainly be another swipe at BLM from the OP, rather than genuine concern.

Of course I am concerened. Peoples human rights are being abused and the place has gone into lockdown again due to these practices, yet the reason why has not been told through MSM. Blackburn will be in lockdown again shortly, and I'll bet it's because of a similar reason to Leicester.

And I don't care about "perspective" NVP, it is illegal and for many will fall under the Modern Slavery Act.

 

[alchal]

Sad state of affairs that this can happen p,the same as all the hand car washes around as well unfortunately.

 

[NVP]

Perhaps it is the fact that certain areas of the country remain in lockdown. Certain other areas are likely to reenter a form of lockdown and they all share a similar demographic. However this lockdown does not really bother the people exploiting those with little education or having dubious status. They will live outside the town and avoid the restrictions. All of the other residents of all demographic backgrounds are affected, their livelihoods, their family life and there well being. So I am all for putting them out of business, for the greater good and to hopefully make stuff more expensive online and maybe bring some business back to the high streets.

Oh yes, I understand the recent lockdown issue and wholly agree. It was more the "slavery" angle, exploitation yes and should be quelled, but outrage for some potentially covering this up is a bit far as I doubt any real pursuit has actually taken place other than individual exceptions q- especially when police are actively tackling actual modern day slavery in the UK.

To add, it is not only those of South Asian heritage, it is Bulgarians, Romanians and other people's with a very low national income who export people to work in exploitative conditions for a little money while the gang masters do all right out of it. If we can get convictions on such as these, that can be permanently excluded from the UK.

Yes definitely, and trafficking to the UK is actively policed, I doubt there are any in charge who want that covered up.

 

[Hagar]

Oh yes, I understand the recent lockdown issue and wholly agree. It was more the "slavery" angle, exploitation yes and should be quelled, but outrage for some potentially covering this up is a bit far as I doubt any real pursuit has actually taken place other than individual exceptions q- especially when police are actively tackling actual modern day slavery in the UK.


Yes definitely, and trafficking to the UK is actively policed, I doubt there are any in charge who want that covered up.

People working in largely hidden or unregulated industries have a much higher risk of injury and death from fires caused by blocked escape routes, overcrowding, dust and debris in the work spaces and electrical faults. Diseases such as weils or Lyme caused by vermin. Industrial injuries from a host of sources. Out of date equipment, certifications, the list is endless and I would be most unhappy with having any relative or friend exposed in this way.

Apologies for just quoting your posting. I am not getting at you . It is a major bugbear to me that these businesses seem impregnable when they should be easy to take down . Health and safety in ythe workplace is important.

 

[NVP]

the list is endless and I would be most unhappy with having any relative or friend exposed in this way.

As would I. For most who choose to work in those conditions it is a case of not knowing, or even wanting, better.

I'm not sure where the jobs would come from if the industry was forced to close due to higher costs from correct procedural implementation of working conditions and pay, and then for those of questionable status the impact of exportation will be significant, also.

There's a lot to this picture.

 

[Em3bbs]

Oh don't worry everyone, it's fine the law is being broken because those being exploited don't know any better. Nothing to see here.

 

[Dis86]

Oh don't worry everyone, it's fine the law is being broken because those being exploited don't know any better. Nothing to see here.

Yup. That was my take too! And this is why we have organisations and bodies that should be helping but aren't.

 

[NVP]

Well then that is a sensationalist interpretation of my posts. To clarify I'm defining the difference of slavery in this situation, I'm not advocating it's use, in fact I have expressed my opinion on it clearly.

I'm uncertain of the agenda here, or if it is simply ignorance.

 

[Sankari]

Welcome to the consequences of appeasement and political correctness. I expect that virtually nothing will be done about this.

 

[Martynt74]

Well then that is a sensationalist interpretation of my posts. To clarify I'm defining the difference of slavery in this situation, I'm not advocating it's use, in fact I have expressed my opinion on it clearly.

I'm uncertain of the agenda here, or if it is simply ignorance.

Come on @NVP, this is OCUK where trying to consider a different viewpoint makes you a radical sympathiser.

You're not allowed to see elements of both sides, it has to be one or the other!

 

[The Running Man]

It is modern day slavery, not tied up with chains and whips but by withholding passport or threats to family back home or just exploitation of those who have no choice but to accept it or lose everything that they have.