Letter to neighbours

vonhelmet said:
By the by, if you're offering to turn the music down at a certain hour, 11 would be more appropriate as I think that's when the law requires you to not be making a racket.
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Excerpt : The Environmental Protection Act 1990 (EPA) is the main legislation used to control noise, this law deals with noise as a statutory nuisance. The EPA states that the following constitutes a statutory nuisance; "noise emitted from premises so as to be prejudicial to health or a nuisance". The Act does not recommend levels for noisy activities for daytime or night-time noise, but it does state that it is an offence to create a noise nuisance at any time.

Key point there is at any time , not 11, not midnight.

It is unreasonable for you to act in this manner, student or not.
 
Nix said:
He's a ruddy student, stop being such an old miserable git. He's giving warning and plenty of it. He's being reasonable.
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Personally I would not mind loud music but what difference does lots of warning give the neighbour?
Is this to give him time to move out, go to a hotel, soundproof the house or what?
Giving warning doesn't change anything it is merely a common courtesy and it is not going to reduce the inconvenience one iota is it?

I suggest you knock on the door, apologise for causing them an issue last time, explain that you would LIKE TO HAVE another party and invite the neighbour to it. Then suggest that if he has any problems with the noise you're more than happy to turn it down.
 
What is the matter with some of you guys. He's having a party, not hosting The Prodigy in his back garden. To say that having a party is unreasonable beggers belief.

We live in a society that has had the benefit of hundreds of years of common law to draw on. I don't care what the Statute book says, the reasonable man on the Clapham omnibus would agree that a planned party which produces some noise is OK, so long as any people affected are informed. It only becomes unreasonable is taken to the extreme.
 
Retsef said:
What is the matter with some of you guys. He's having a party, not hosting The Prodigy in his back garden. To say that having a party is unreasonable beggers belief.

We live in a society that has had the benefit of hundreds of years of common law to draw on. I don't care what the Statute book says, the reasonable man on the Clapham omnibus would agree that a planned party which produces some noise is OK, so long as any people affected are informed. It only becomes unreasonable is taken to the extreme.
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Under common law you do not have a RIGHT to disturb my peace at any time ever.
As for what is extreme - that is all totally subjective.
Most people think they are acting reasonably, the problem is when what you consider to be reasonable and what I consider to be reasonable differ.
 
VIRII said:
Under common law you do not have a RIGHT to disturb my peace at any time ever.
As for what is extreme - that is all totally subjective.
Most people think they are acting reasonably, the problem is when what you consider to be reasonable and what I consider to be reasonable differ.
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Who said anything about a RIGHT to disturb peace. Are you saying as a human I have no RIGHT to come near you, speak to you, pass you in the street?

The point is that it's a common law test (and could be used as a defence against Statute in some cases). It's not you who has to decide what's reasonable and what's not. It's up to the Court.

Agree that what is extreme is subjective - in fact it was a poorly chosen word to use given the context.
 
pfft i've got 2 young kids under 2, now i'm a considerate neighbour and dont mind a bit of noise now and again and i'd be more than happy if my neighbour were to give me a bit of warning if he were having a party, although if he were just to one night without warning start cranking hte bass up into the wee hours i'd ask him nicely to turn it down failure to comply would result in hospitilization of said neighbour as a matter of course.
 
Nix said:
He's a ruddy student, stop being such an old miserable git. He's giving warning and plenty of it. He's being reasonable.
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no offence but if i had to work next morning then any warning in advance wouldnt help.
i cant sleep even if i hear tiny bit of "human" noise.. i am ok with pc noise tho
 
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What type of house are you living in?

If you are middle terrace or have thin walls. Then Parties are probably a bit anti-social.

If you are fully detached and have a bit of space between houses then I can see little problem.

You should always out of courtesy notify the neighbours that you are having a party, invite them along and apologise for the disturbance both in noise and quantity of cars on the street. You should always do this in person.

Most people will not begrudge you if they are invited and opt not to come, or if the noise is not excessive. (but this will be dependant on the thickness of the walls).

If they have young children or get up early for work it is probably best not to have a party at your place.
 
Kronologic said:
What type of house are you living in?

If you are middle terrace or have thin walls. Then Parties are probably a bit anti-social.

If you are fully detached and have a bit of space between houses then I can see little problem.
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The house that is the problem has about a 12 foot gap with a driveway down the middle of their house between ours.

siztenboots said:
Dear OP, can't you just take it to a night club ? Why should your neighbour have to move out of his own house, and pay to spend quiet night in a hotel to get some sleep ?
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We're not asking them to move out. The same goes for if we want to have a party we shouldn't be expected to move out ourselves.

Bascially we're having a party in our house whether they say we can or can't. We're simply stating to them that there will be some noise, but after 11pm the noise will cease to exists.

They have a number of options:
1) Come and join in and build a bridge over the last fiasco,
2) Go out for the night
3) Grin and bear it.
 
Right or wrong, I think you're being a hell of a lot more reasonable than a lot of folk about this... how many don't even think twice about it? You sound like a decent lad, just do what you think is right - though tbh I would try and speak to him face to face - shows him you ain't scared of him - even if you are :D Generally it's much harder to be horrible to someone face to face. Doesn't always matter, but might work in your favour!
 
You are being reasonable.
Go round tell him to his face that the party will quiten down at 23:00.
In the likely event that it does go on past this then you did warn him, however best course of action would be to go round a couple of evenings after the party and give them a bottle of wine (you will probably have some left - though lambrini might not go down too well) and say something like 'I hope we weren't too noisy last Saturday'.
 
Just advise him of the party and at 11pm the stereo shall comply with the law and not be above the government imposed maximum level of 31 decibels for night-time noise. from 11pm - 7am that way he knows he doesnt have a right or left leg to stand on :p

its what we do when we have a party and even if the police turn up the measure the noise advise neighbours its legal and then leave

so your sorted
 
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