lian li mobo layout

would that involve some hole cutting?
the only reason i'd go with an internal solution and not something like the Xternal, is if people convinced me enough (or just told me) that having the NB, mosfets, ram and HDDs on the same loop as my gfx would significantly affect the cooling performance of it.

thanks

daven
 
daven1986 said:
would that involve some hole cutting?
the only reason i'd go with an internal solution and not something like the Xternal, is if people convinced me enough (or just told me) that having the NB, mosfets, ram and HDDs on the same loop as my gfx would significantly affect the cooling performance of it.

thanks

daven
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They would DEFINALTY be significantly affected...

1) Water Temperature rising through the loop.
2) Water flow restrictions due to number of curves and water blocks in loop.

Both will mean that somewhere along the line you'll end up with cooling no better than air, possibly even worse than air.
 
ok in that case would you suggest 2 loops? and if so what blocks on each loop considering we need: ram, gpu, hdd x 2, NB and mosfets?

im guessing i would be better off with 2 loops and not the xternal then.

thanks
daven
 
Please just scrap the HDD cooling!

They are designed to run fine passive if your using IDE or SATA! A fan blowing over them at 5v is tops what you need. Watercooling them is not needed.
 
but i dont want a fan. please yewen, i appreciate what you are saying but i'd like them to be watercooled. i'd just like to know what blocks to put on which loops, and also how would i mount the radiator on the lian li case?

thanks

daven
 
To mount it depends where you want to place it, lots of places you could make blowholes to mount it.

Make the hard drives passive then, I am trying to save you money!

I would have, GPU and CPU on the main loop with a 120.2/120.3 rad, and a second system for the hdd's and nb, cheap and cheerful 120.1 low end gear to cool them.
 
A large Rad (.2 or .3) will only really go in the roof of a V1000 if mounting internally. The other place is ripping out the HDD's racks and mounting in the base. But i take it you want the HD there. :)

I have seen dual loop setups with a 120.1 on both 120mm fans (intake and exhaust). Not very good cooling for the CPU/GPU loop though.

How mobile do you want the case to be? Do you care about looks? You could have long tubes to a rad outside the case. You could also make a rad box and have that on top of the pc or next to it.
 
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my cpu is going to be phase cooled. i dont mind pipes going outside case, but cba to build a rad box. dont really want to cut holes in my case. and harddrives will be mounted in 5 1/2 inch bays.

my pipe for phase will come from bottom through the HDD bay at the bottom. I could mount a small rad blowing air out the front in the HDD bay...also might put pumps there.

any more ideas guys?!

mobility - not really an issue
i do care about looks, but pipes outside = fine.

thanks for your help so far guys

daven
 
Sorry to be a pain, but i am unclear what space you will have in your case. Are you taking the HD bays out to put the phase change stuff in there or will this come from outside?

Option one (NO CUTTING): Considering you REALLY want to cool the mosfets and HDD (Asus mobo?) as well as the GPU then i would have the GPU on one loop on a 120.1 (should be fine) and the rest on another loop with a similar rad. You could mount these on the fans sucking air from the case over them. This has the downside that you will have no cool air entering the case.

Option two (NO CUTTING): Simply have a large 120.3 outside your box connected via tubing. This should be enough to cool everything i think.

Option three (CUTTING): Mount a 120.1 (or a .2) in the roof of the case and then the other 120.1 on the lower case fan at the front of the case. You can then reverse the back fan having air coming in the rear and up out the top of the case through the top mounted rad.

Maybe if you draw us a very simple mock up of what you already have in the case would help.

ps all of the above was referring to the V1000 as you mentioned in your top post - it will be a tight squeeze. VERY tight. Maybe go for a larger case? :)
 
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sorry if i was unclear. my phase will go underneath the case, nothing will be in the HDD bays. i dont have the case yet as this will be a future build, am just trying to get a final idea going!
a larger case is possible and if someone case suggest another case i would consider it, however i would appreciate one which has a similar styling to the lian li case.

i will be using whatever tubing is the best, i dont really know what is the best at the moment - if you could help it'd be great!

i dont really want to cool the mosfets, i only would if necessary - im guessing if i have no airflow in my case, any mobo will require its mosfets cooled or am i incorrect?

i like option 2. are there any rads like this that have a case of some sort to allow me to just lay it on top of my case?

thanks for your help

daven
 
Personally I think on the HDD front Just dropping them in the lower bay and letting convection remove the heat will be plenty..

Not sure why anyone would want to cool a HDD.. it's not exactly required :/

Then I guess NB/Graphics in one loop will be fine.
 
well i was planning on getting a raptor, and i have heard they run hot, also it is piece of mind that they are nice and cool. it won't restrict flow much if i put it on the same loop as my NB though would it?

also do all mobos need mosfet cooling?

thanks
 
daven1986 said:
well i was planning on getting a raptor, and i have heard they run hot, also it is piece of mind that they are nice and cool. it won't restrict flow much if i put it on the same loop as my NB though would it?

also do all mobos need mosfet cooling?

thanks
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No mobos NEED mosfet cooling. Similarly no mobo NEEDS NB cooling. Think about it for a sec - most new MB have passive cooling on these. Why would you need to water cool a pasively cooled compenent. :)

Also no HDs NEED water cooling, even a raptor (They arent that loud by the way - only when seeking in my experience).

There isnt really a 'best size tubing' to use. You either use 1/2" or smaller bore. Most in the USA and AUS use 1/2". In Europe people use smaller bore (10mm). In the UK modders seem divided betwen the two. Both can cool pretty well when setup properly.

I am off to bed now but will post more tomorrow m8 :)
 
Stick your hard drives in a Silenmaxx drive, raptors make a racket! Mine is in a silenmaxx drive and I hear it seeking, and I have a proper silent PC.

If you want silent then a Seagate or a Samsung drive in a Silenmaxx enclosure.
 
i was going to try a watercool silentstar for the harddrives, as it should keep the noise down.

well i mean do they need extra cooling considering there will be no air flow in the case?
thanks

daven
 
They can run in a small box at high temperatures for years just fine, no trouble in a case with no airflow as it is what they are designed for.
 
ok ok, i've got the watercooling almost sorted now - last Qs:

2 loops - definate
2 pumps - definate
how many rads? im thinking 1 big one for graphics, and 1 small one for everything else.

also I have finally been convinced I will now have 2x 120mm slow fans in the case. where should i place rads in the lian li.

also....WHICH CASE??!?!!!?! lian li, or something else?

thanks

daven
 
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